wireless shotgun onboard mike option?

[lee caropolo]

I am looking to invest in a mike that i can use wirelessly with the tascam dr40. I would like it to be a shotgun mike that i can mount to the 5d 2. I will mostly be shooting outdoors in the woods. I know having the mike on the camera is not ideal but mostly im shooting myself and cant afford a sound person this time around. So i figured i would do 4 track recording using onboard mikes a senhiser g2 lav and a shotgun suggestion that could be wireless. I was looking at the rhode video mike but i dont want to record thru the camera because then i have to get a juiced link and all that. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Lee

 

[ggrantly]

This can done pretty easily. If you use a shotgun with battery power such as a ntg2 or at897 and attach the Sennheiser buttplug, you can transmit to a g2 receiver, and the to the recorder of your choice.

Grant

 

[Steve House]

I am looking to invest in a mike that i can use wirelessly with the tascam dr40. I would like it to be a shotgun mike that i can mount to the 5d 2. I will mostly be shooting outdoors in the woods. I know having the mike on the camera is not ideal but mostly im shooting myself and cant afford a sound person this time around. So i figured i would do 4 track recording using onboard mikes a senhiser g2 lav and a shotgun suggestion that could be wireless. I was looking at the rhode video mike but i dont want to record thru the camera because then i have to get a juiced link and all that. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Lee

It's not that on-camera mics are not ideal; saying they're not ideal sort of implies they are acceptable but the results could be better. The reality is that it's virtually impossible to get usable dialog, something that goes above the 'scratch track' level of quality, with one at all.

 

[Noiz2]

With the 5D 2 you don't need to use a jucelink. If your going on camera (a really bad idea in most cases) then the Rode VMP going straight in is going to be as good as any other choice.

Your plan has a number of flaws. First the camera mount thing is pretty useless unless your doing "man in the street" type run and gun stuff. For ENG it gets by because it's "news" so people expect rough sound.

second you want to do a wireless hop which is going to compress the signal and add other problems into an already compromised signal. Unless your using a digital wireless, but if you have one of those and won't pony up for a sound person you get what you deserve.

So for anything but the roughest ENG the on board is a loss. The lav could be OK but your not monitoring so... Now you didn't say you were not monitoring but if the recorder is close enough to monitor then you don't need the wireless hop to it from the camera.

The on board mics??? Not sure what you expect to get with those.

Lots of tracks are not a positive thing. Lots of GOOD tracks are. With this plan you will have four tracks only one of which is at all likely to be of any use.

Don't mean to be harsh but I get a fair amount of shows with lots of tracks none of which are any good. It takes time to listen and toss bad tracks. And the ONLY thing you want from production audio is clean dialog and a few seconds of room tone.

FX and backgrounds etc. are 99.999% of the time a complete waste to record on set UNLESS you have a separate dedicated FX recordist who is recording when you are not shooting.

From a post perspective I would much rather have a mono track that is decent than lots of bad options. So a VMP with an extension and a boom op going straight into the 5D would be probably a lot better.

Of course you can't monitor then so that has it's own issues.

 

[lee caropolo]

Uuungh i need a sound person. Thank you Steve and sk. Sk thank you for being blunt too ive seen your posts before on sound and know your very knowledgable. I guess i could attach the tascam to a sennheiser g2 and just run 2 lavs from that while monitoring from the tascam.....while i shoot. Less tracks. Ill look into getting a sound person possibly.
Thanks everyone
Lee