Wireless lav standard?

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windsorguy

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Just got my DVX100A two weeks ago so I'll need some mics.

If the Sennheiser ME66 is the standard shotgun mic and the Sony 7506 is the standard for headphones, what would be the standard in wireless lavs? And if someone could explain the difference between UHF and VHF, that would be a bonus.

Thank you.
 
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whos standards you are talking about - yours or my
what do yo expect fro wierless mike ? range , sound quality , easy to use , multy chanel , size, weight,how long you can work without replace tx battery ,
stereo link on one tx , voterproof , can it work with external antena , does it have ext dc input , what kind of batteries it use. do you nead stasionary or eng style reciever
or just the standard is the low price product (me-66 is one of the hell bad products -but its cheap-so every one have it:-)

the vhf -is for very high friqwency every thing that about 80- 200 +mhz for fq carier
the uhf is for ultra high fq and it for every thing that above that
 
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Well I wouldn't call it "my standard" seeing as how wireless audio is one thing I know little about. I would call it the "general dv shooter" standard I guess. I'm looking at something that is reliable and is capable of capturing audio at a professional level. Not Hollywood level, but professional. Like shooting weddings or commercials. Something you would feel confident using. I am by no means looking for only one correct response, so name 3-4 mics to give me some things to consider.

As for the UHF/VHF, I want to know what the difference is, and by that I mean, in what situations would you use one over the other.
 
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I'm looking at something that is reliable and is capable of capturing audio at a professional level. Not Hollywood level, but professional.

i dont know what is the difference between hollywood and proffesional -i know only professional :-)
i use some things that even in hollywod not every one carry and know some people that use things in hollywod that i dont wont to carry :-)

i know peope which using the same equiop for 20000$ weadings and comersials
(half milion budget comersials )
lets start with the main issiu -what is your budget
under 750 (its working -its not , what is that noice -excuz me !!you out of range , every one have it , is the dv standard, :-))
under 1200 good used systems could be found here
under 2000 good things start here (beside sony)
under 2600 very good things
under 3000 exellent
under 4000 ( almost good as 30$ cable)
 
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I'm definitely looking at something that will cost less than $1200. What are my best options?
 
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First of all, the ME66 is no longer the "standard" mic, not after all the testing against the AT4073! :)

Secondly, for wireless, keep in mind that wireless is an inherently less reliable technology than wired. It should only be used as a very, very last resort, in circumstances where there's just no other way to get the shot.

Now, with that said, there are a few things to know. VHF vs. UHF -- avoid VHF like the plague (unless it's made by Lectrosonics).

UHF vs. UHF "Diversity" -- Diversity can give you a better more consistent signal. Diversity is better.

Minimum acceptable systems (acceptability is a moving target, of course) would be the Sennheiser Evolution G2 and the Audio-Technica U101. Each is in the neighborhood of $500. Each performs decently in confined conditions (i.e., we're not talking about trying to cover across a football field, but within a room, etc).

If you want the "good stuff", you want Lectrosonics. If you can't possibly afford Lectrosonics, the higher-end Sennheiser systems are pretty good. If you can't afford $500 for an AT U101 or G2, don't get a wireless system.
 
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[quote author=Barry_Green link=board=audio;num=1091042159;start=0#5 date=07/28/04 at 15:06:26]First of all, the ME66 is no longer the "standard" mic, not after all the testing against the AT4073! :)

vs. UHF -- avoid VHF like the plague (unless it's made by (i.e., we're not talking about trying to cover across a football field, but within a room, etc).

.[/quote]

we call it- to slote the holly cow on the football field :-)
 
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Barry

Thank you for your response. I would not spend less than 500. I'm looking at 500-1000, at least for now. I could see upgrading in the future, as my skills (and asking price) increases.

Just to be clear, the systems you mentioned include a transmitter, receiver, and lav mic right? If not, what do they include?
 
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check out the lavalier section at B&H, you can almost always buy a kit with an included lav mic.
 
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Yes, those systems come complete and ready to use. You can even select from a few choices of microphones, such as omni's or cardioids. The Sennheiser includes an XLR adapter cable, you'd need a cable to use the AT.
 
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If I already have a wired Lav (XLR) can I plug it in a Wireless transmitter? Are there any adapters that could do the trick or I'd have to have 2 mics with different plugs, one for wired and one for wireless?
 
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You can plug ANY XLR mic into a "butt plug" transmitter. (I didn't name it.) Anytime you see the little cube transmitter with the xlr connection... that's it.

I've got a tram with ta5f and one with XLR and I can run 'em both on two different systems... one bodypack and one "BP". Sometimes I use an ENG mic on the BP.
 
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A caveat on that is whether the plug-in transmitter can supply phantom power. The Sennheiser Evolution 100 plug-in cannot supply phantom power, so if your mic needs phantom, you're out of luck with trying to do that. Some lav's have a power module that can take a battery as well (like the Tram TR50) so it CAN be used with a plug-in transmitter, but other mic's may not be able to.
 
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ALL of this has been talked about time and time again. Do a search, and you'll find the answers you're looking for.

-Dave
 
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Now is it true that those adapters can blow your camera out? I have a Lectrosonics lav where I work but it doesn't take xlr. I thought about picking up one of those adapters but a dealer advised me against it.
 
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