Wine Celler Lighting

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Ogrus

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First and foremost I have zilch idea on lightning but want to help my nephew and a few friends
that will be shooting and interview in a darkish wine cellar.

They have mentioned doing the popular three point lightning but hey aren't sure what what would be the correct lightning power or bulb type to do this.
What would you recommend for a key light (tungsten? Halogen? any suggestions....150w? 300w? 500w?) and for a fill light? (same issues) back light?
Please bear in mind they are students with very tight budget, so no "pro" lightning, more like stuff you would buy at a Ikea or depot sort of place

Oh! they will be using a HMC40 well known for its poor low light performance

Thank you in advance for your help and advice!
 
Not a single advice from 106 views ?????????
Nobody can give a little help????

We have checked the lightning forum but all it says about three light positioning is that "positioning", but no info about type of lights nor power!

There must be tons of experts that can give a hand!!
 
Well you did specify no professional lighting. But my suggestion would be to take the money you would waste in non-professional lighting, and visit your local A/V rental location and rent the needed lights at a student rental rate.

Kino Flo Diva 400 w/grid key
Kino Flo Diva 200 fill
300w fresnel backlight
650w fresnel background splash

Good luck!

Dave
 
The OP said little to no budget, so if you have no money, you will need to be more creative. The OP didn't give any info on what was the desired look, the intended audience, or the nature of the production other than saying it was an interview, so it isn't too surprising the lack of response.

I imagine a wine cellar as a pretty dimly lit place, so think practicals in the tungsten spectrum = 3200k. Use lighting that would represent how the cellar would actually look if you just went down there and looked around. This doesn't mean to use the actual lighting, just how you imagine it would look. Light the background with some China balls and or other background lights to create some separation from the subject Light the talent with a single soft source from the side. A 500 watt work light with a bed sheet diffusion could work (don't set the sheet on fire). A flo fixture or a pro tungsten fixture with a soft box would be better! Place the camera to achieve the desired look. Shoot the shadow side for a bit of mystery, shoot the lit side for a typical view. The HMC40 has an asa of about 50, so bring enough watts to avoid using too much gain, though a little noise in a cellar scene might look ok.

Someone else might have a very different creative view of a wine cellar interview, but the point is to create your lighting plan from the perspective of the finished scene and then create the lighting plan to achieve that goal.

Short of that, rent what David suggested, and make sure the flos come with 3200k bulbs.

Grant
 
David W. Jones said:
Well you did specify no professional lighting. But my suggestion would be to take the money you would waste in non-professional lighting, and visit your local A/V rental location and rent the needed lights at a student rental rate.

Kino Flo Diva 400 w/grid key
Kino Flo Diva 200 fill
300w fresnel backlight
650w fresnel background splash

Good luck!

Dave
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thanks dave!
 
Your welcome.

Let me also present you with a lower cost more professional than Ikea or Depot type light solution which could then be used for future productions, but would be less expensive than some of the better professional stuff.

This would be a good low cost soft key light for under $250 that you could also tube at 3200K.
http://ephotoinc.amazonwebstore.com/ePhoto-4-Bank-1100W-Dimmable-with/M/B003WR53AA.htm

Something like this low cost light stand to support it under $60.
http://www.amazon.com/Impact-Heavy-Light-Stand-Black/dp/B004U5F3BC

This low cost reflector could add bang for buck as a bounce fill reflector for under $20.
http://www.amazon.com/Neewer-110CM-Collapsible-Multi-Disc-Reflector/dp/B002ZIMEMW/ref=pd_cp_p_0

Something like this LED light would be flexible, hairlight, fill, for under $80.
http://www.led-video-lights.com/hdvz96-oncamera-led-video-light-wholesale-price_p707.html
 
David W. Jones said:
Your welcome.

Let me also present you with a lower cost more professional than Ikea or Depot type light solution which could then be used for future productions, but would be less expensive than some of the better professional stuff.

This would be a good low cost soft key light for under $250 that you could also tube at 3200K.
http://ephotoinc.amazonwebstore.com/ePhoto-4-Bank-1100W-Dimmable-with/M/B003WR53AA.htm

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Have you used this light before, it seems like a poor mans kino flo. Of course it wont be as good but are they still decent and worth the price? Might get one or two if so.

And to not totally high jack this thread with that question, I like the idea that was already said of using china balls to create a nice atmosphere light, only downfall is that they can be a pain to get hanging correctly with out a special stand for them.
 
Yes I have used them for green screen work, no problems.

Hey, had to ride my Kymco scooter today while I have my Ferrari taken apart.
 
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