Why 24p is better??Tech reasons

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DoubleIt

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Im trying to explain to people at work why shooting in 24p is better.

They are saying it makes no sense since there are more FPS if you shoot in 30, which is true. I am saying you just have to see it, there is a HUGE difference. Film is shot in 24 and it just looks better.

But what are the technical reasons why 24p is better and looks more film like?Besides running at the same FPS.

Im getting frustrated trying to explain this and this one company is saying how at 24 it wont look good online anyway. Im ripping my hair out trying to explain this but dont know the techincal reasons. Any help?
 
Also, HD 24p footage (IE HVX footage) will it look grainy on something like HDNet when running at 30fps?
 
24fps is more filmlike because it's progressive, at 24 fps. So is film. Film is progressive, and runs (normally) at 24 frames per second.

You can get smoother motion at a faster frame rate; 30p is smoother than 24p, and 60p is way smoother than 24p. But then it doesn't look like film.

So separate out your argument -- do you want to make the most filmlike footage? Or the clearest/smoothest? Because you can't have both.
 
I know I didn't really notice the Spec Ad Darge shot being 30p... maybe if it were longer I would've picked it up.

I can't see why, if the content is long enough, you wouldn't be able to discern between 30p and 24p online.

Unless the window was like really tiny.
 
Barry_Green said:
24fps is more filmlike because it's progressive, at 24 fps. So is film. Film is progressive, and runs (normally) at 24 frames per second.

You can get smoother motion at a faster frame rate; 30p is smoother than 24p, and 60p is way smoother than 24p. But then it doesn't look like film.

So separate out your argument -- do you want to make the most filmlike footage? Or the clearest/smoothest? Because you can't have both.
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So in the case of 24p vs. 30p it is all about smoothness? 30p is more smooth but adding those 6 FPS makes it look less like film. There is no technical reason, it is just because, since that is what we are used to from watching film in theaters?

HDNet is saying they dont want anything in 24p so we are trying to make an argument and figure out both sides...They are also saying that 24p is not 'true HD' which i am thinking is just hogwash? They are also saying that when playing back 24p it just doesnt look as good.


(I was hoping you wouold come into this thread BTW, thanks!)
 
HDNet refers to 720p as "medium def" too. They want only 1080/60i and nothing but that. No point in arguing with them; if they want what they want, supply what they want.
 
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