Which is looking more appealing?

Which is looking more appealing?

  • I prefer A

    Votes: 23 57.5%

  • I prefer B

    Votes: 17 42.5%
  • Total voters
    40
  • Poll closed .
Evangelos Achillopoulos

Evangelos Achillopoulos

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Click on the two links below, open each on a new tab on the browser maximize them and switch between the two and tell us which is looking more appealing.

http://www.motionfx.gr/Files/ggrelay/A.jpg
http://www.motionfx.gr/Files/ggrelay/B.jpg

Its from two totally different systems on their maximum capabilities and have the same (as possible CC) and the same FoV. (even thought one of them wasn't on the sweet spot).

More explanation...

Its a test that I did and I want to understand what people like... I can't explain more... only that it is used two different DoF adapters in the same camera with the same lights but with totally different characteristics.
 
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not exactly the same fov, including the stop.
also different color space generated from one of the glass, not to mention much more chromatic aberrations on one of them.

what's the reason of the test?, it doesn't look like a test for film or interview type tv.
more explanation as to what you are going for, perhaps.
 
Looks like it's a test for GG diffusion. The GG in A is less diffused, which gives the illusion of a more out of focus background. The GG in B is more diffuse which makes the background seems more in focus but with more light loss. I'm willing to bet that both were set at the same f-stop. I prefer B because I don't like the ridiculously out of focus look.
 
Interesting example and a little tricky.
I prefer A which looks sharper to me on the face and looks like not as wide a lens so I'm guessing that its the FF35 with a longer lens and less DOF because the BG is softer and slightly larger. Is it also at a higher f-stop ( for sharpness) while still maintaining lower DOF?

On the other hand the lettering on the shirt looks sharper on B and the face looks like it was shot a little more Wide angle on A than B which looks more compressed thus implying the opposite - could just be the pose though - maybe he jut his face out more in A.

Have I shown myself to be an idiot and gotten everything wrong?


Lenny Levy
 
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I like A because background is more blurry which means focus is more on the subject. Besides that and a little color difference I don't see any major difference though.
 
Is this a test of FF vs Academy? - Just a wild guess coming from the context of the discussion you originally posted it in.
 
Evangelos,

Well tomorrow is my birthday so I will just have to remain patient and think of these results as a special present from Europe.

Lenny
 
I clicked A thinking it was a grade, then looking back at the bokeh I think I prefer B. Then again the DoF is far deeper on B, which is more fitting for this particular frame.

I think to get accurate results you would have to get the same DoF and match color perfectly.

And strike the same pose. LOL

Also there is a diffused glow on A which is a problem unless you want that through the whole project. I guess it also makes exposure look higher on A, which might be what is helping the hair for example, but B still looks right, and A looks diffused.

B for sure, so take one off A and add it to B.
 
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I picked B.

Though A had better diffused look, the optics produced CA on the contrast areas. (T-shirt edges)

B had a better image overall.
 
You must be joking. It's a no contest. "A" is better. First look at the hair. "A" has much more detail. Then look at the right wall. "A" is much cleaner. Look at the skin tone. "A" is more organic. Look at the contrast. "A" has less contrast and a much more filmic look. The only subjective difference is the depth of field. "A" seems to have a more narrow depth of field. Overall it's a no contest. "A" is definitely better.
 
I just want to state Roberto that the key word is aesthetically "appealing" on first look... So I'm looking for the first thing that comes to your mind. What is the spontaneous answer without start searching for flaws... when you see them in two to seconds which drags your attention more. Which one i.e. will select an ad agency?
 
Evangelos, that is impossible to answer without a little more information regarding the spot you are shooting, and the specific shots within it. You could very well want both of those in the same commercial. Each moment requires its own look.

Teddybear is right, there is a heck of a lot of CA on shot A. The short collar, the reflection on the sunglasses, it is all over and very pronounced. Technically shot B is far superior, and a clean base is better, period.

Whether this specific look is good for the agency is entirely up your understanding of what they are looking for and whether you do a good job of delivering it. And you can get the A look out of the B camera without the CA. The A shot also seems softer on the edges (center bottom being the only spot with detail to judge).

That said, diffused is usually related to beauty shots. Shallow DoF can give you the subconscious impression that the subject is commanding your attention. The more relaxed pose gives you the feeling of accessibility, but the other can give people the feeling of "not being let in" which can play as coquette making people want to be let in. The warmer grade on A can also be associated with beauty shots. The darker hair on B can do the opposite...

...but all of this is subjective, and kind of useless on its own, till you cut to something else, then it begins to have more meaning by juxtaposition, contrast.

I don't think we know enough to answer your question. But, that said... first impression? Which one I am more drawn to? A
Alone, A pulls me in first. I think mainly because of the warmer grade, diffusion, and detail in the hair.

However, I would probably shoot on camera B, use a very light diffusion filter, lower contrast to get detail in the hair, warm it up a tad, and fine tune in post as needed.
 
Minus the CA, and you would have the ability to avoid the diffused look (if that is caused by the adapter), and a sharper image. The idea is to have the ability to get the leanest image possible, then you can make it "funky" as needed. You can't make a funky image clean again.
 
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It looks like B is shot with a wide lens and A with a long lens.
I don't have a specific tast for a or b because it depends on the the mood that one wants to achieve. Of course there is this litle color difference and DoF difference, but I cannot see this picture out of a context. The pose in A looks better to me.
 
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