Which camera to buy.

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Jacques_Meov

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Well, like THIS is a new question!
I don't want to sink $3k+ in a DVX-100a. Not that it's a bad camera, just that I think the price will drop drastically in the next 18 months and I don't necessarily want the depreciation yet...if at all.
I have a chance to get a refurb JVC GY-DV300U for less than $1200. I've used one at camera shop, made a test tape that I took home. The image is outstanding...beats the XL1s all to hell. (700 lines rez)
Here's the rub, no 24p. But then again, I have MB, so why not take the great rez of the 300U and make it look like film in post?
HOW MUCH BETTER IS 24p THAN DOING IT IN POST?
 
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Dear jack meov bronze member, if you want to do it in post, go right ahead. It will just take you more time.
 
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Well, it kind of souds like you made up your mind already.  You're just looking for validation.  I don't think anyone here is going to tell you that the JVC with MB in post will look as film-like as the DVX.  THe DVX, in 24P, captures at that frame rate.  It's not mimicing anything, it's actually doing it.  Will the JVC with MB look better than without?  Sure.  Will it look as good as the DVX? No.

I struggled with the price as well.  But then I did a side by side test at the rental house.  It sealed the deal.  I feel for you if you afford it right now.  Maybe look into renting one for a weekend and see how you like it.  FOr me, I've learned to save for what I really want.  60i, modified in post to look like film is not the same as shooting with 24 P.  You can do a lot in post, but I always do in front of the camera what I can.  It simplifies my life, and I always get a better result.
 
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[quote author=Jacques_Meov link=board=news;num=1109145386;start=0#0 date=02/22/05 at 23:56:26] I think the price will drop drastically in the next 18 months and I don't necessarily want the depreciation yet...if at all.
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That's just not going to happen. Regardless if a new camera is introduced or not. There will never be a "blow out" price. The depreciation is surprisingly minimal. For an electronic device, outright shocking. Look on eBay and you will see these [and other brands] hold value very well. You can also buy used and deal with almost zero depreciation.
 
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[quote author=Jacques_Meov link=board=news;num=1109145386;start=0#7 date=02/23/05 at 12:36:14]Dakota, would you post or camera?[/quote]

???

Sorry, don't understand the question...
 
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according to Jan, the price won't drop
 
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Cameras hold value well. Even the XL1 @ close to 8 years old still runs at over 2 grand.
 
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The only factor is whether the camera does what you want. That's the value. If you buy a less expensive camera, you might get a deal. But if it doesn't do what you need it to, how much of a value is that?
 
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Jacques_Meov, you will not throw your money if you'll buy a good SD camera now, or in the coming 3 years, or even more.. no worries at all. i have a dvx100 for almost 2 years and still looking for a chance to upgrade to the 100A, which is a camera that proved itself so well... i can't even imaging considering any other camera at it's size/level/price at the moment. even if a HDXwhatever comes tomorrow, it will not make the DVX worse.. sort of axiomatic yet needs to be said.
what matters is what you see -- with which camera you make better footage. thats why your dilemma is eventually very individual. post is not an option for that matter. and i don't think that "MB" will do the trick here... (and i like MB)

shooting progressive is essentially different from shooting interlaced. the whole camera operating is influenced by this technical fact.

hope it helps
 
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To everyone that posted, a BIG THANK YOU!

To John, why rec the 300?

To Dakota: Would you do the film look in camera or in post.

Everyone seems to be in agreement that post is NOT the way to go. My bias is that way as I'm edit-based, PC in fact. But I am looking at the clips you all have posted and the panny 24p is breath-taking...16mm easily.
DAMN, THIS AIN'T EASY!

Now if only I had not thrown out that money printing machine when I moved last July...
 
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As people have noted there is a very noticeable difference between shooting 24p and altering 60i in post. Also true progressive 24 frames a second has way more resolution to fool around with in post. When you de-interlace 60i you hurt the resolution. There are many posts here discussing de-interlacing if you search back. The decision is ultimately yours but if "film look" is important to you then the DVX shines. "Faking it" is just no way as pleasant looking.

If budget is a factor then a less expensive camera may have to do for now. [or wait awhile and save more] People get some impressive results with 60i, but it's just not the same. If the concern is buying now and not having lasting technology don't worry. The DVX will be VERY VERY usable for years to come.
 
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[quote author=Dakota link=board=news;num=1109145386;start=15#15 date=02/24/05 at 08:47:27]The DVX will be VERY VERY usable for years to come.[/quote]
No question about it. I plan on using mine until she quits working. ;D
 
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