where to get discontinued film stocks - for the love of god!!

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Hi I'm looking to shoot my next feature film exclusively on 35 mm film,
was wondering if anyone can tell me where I can obtain film stocks that are discontinued, I've searched on ebay and other websites, and com across various things, but
for stocks that have been discontinued where can I purchase them,

Also can anyone tell me if it's possible that kodak and fuji are willing to provide free stock that is being discontinued or there throwing away in time for the digital takeover in the next 2 years.

Please tell me all you guys can,

every litttle helps

some stock that I'm trying to get are


Kodak Vision2 200T 7217,
Vision3 500T 7219
Eastman Plus-X 7276, Tri-X 7278

Eastman Double-X 5222,
Kodak Vision 250D 5246,
Vision 500T 5279,
EXR 200T 5293

Thanks again
 
filmstock said:
Also can anyone tell me if it's possible that kodak and fuji are willing to provide free stock that is being discontinued or there throwing away in time for the digital takeover in the next 2 years.
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I guess this would be all about the contacts you have, but why not just contact someone over there and ask? Judging from Kodak's predicaments though, I'm not too sure... if they're trying to make some pocket money out of suing Apple, I'm not sure they'd let much slide.
 
Gee, I want some of what your smoking!

Sorry, can't help but wonder what your thought process is, and thinking you are a little late to the party. First off, why do you feel the need to shoot a feature on film. Second, why on a mishmash of different discontinued film stocks? If it were me, and I was serious about this feature, the budget for film stock/35mm cameras/developing/transfer/and the like, would be spent in other areas of the film where they would have a greater impact on the success of the film. And this is coming from someone who shot on film for over 30 years. So I'm not a film hater, just a realist!

All the Best!

Dave
 
I feel the need to shoot on film because digital STILL has'nt surpassed it, and I'll end up spending more money on trying to take the flatness away from the digital image, i.e. lighting lens, grading etc;

Than the amount of money I'll spend on the guranteed image quality I'll get on 35 mm,

THat's were I'm coming from. and believe me I'm not smoking anything other than oxygen - I never did inhale lol
 
filmstock said:
I feel the need to shoot on film because digital STILL has'nt surpassed it, and I'll end up spending more money on trying to take the flatness away from the digital image, i.e. lighting lens, grading etc;
Than the amount of money I'll spend on the guranteed image quality I'll get on 35 mm,
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Sorry, but shooting on 35mm film does not guarantee image quality! I have shot plenty of 35mm film that looked like ****. It has nothing to do with the film stock, and everything to do with the people involved with your film. You still have to light, use lenses, and grade your film no matter the medium you choose to acquire with. And as far as digital not surpassed film, are 1 stop and 40 line pairs for example really going to make that big an impact on the success of your feature? Why not ask any of the successful big name Academy award winning filmmakers who are shooting their productions on digital now.
 
When certain technologies make their way into oblivion I have found that in fact it usually the supporting technologies that are really the critical path. For example, media types get surpassed for something else like magneto optical, sysquest, etc. Its not the media itself that's the problem but the drives which play them. I still have a few old units of the media kicking around, but the drives are nowhere to be found.

So for me its not the fact the film is now to make its way into obscurity, but what will happen to the film processing setups?
 
filmstock said:
I feel the need to shoot on film because digital STILL has'nt surpassed it, and I'll end up spending more money on trying to take the flatness away from the digital image, i.e. lighting lens, grading etc;

Than the amount of money I'll spend on the guranteed image quality I'll get on 35 mm,

THat's were I'm coming from. and believe me I'm not smoking anything other than oxygen - I never did inhale lol
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The why look for stocks that have not been made in years... as for major producers... Kodak and Fuji most likely recycled their 'old stock' and reused the silver, so they most likely don't have any 'old stock'... and how 'old'... so old there are wyrd color shifts... for color negative stocks... light 'fog' on old B&W stocks... ASA 64 stocks... and have to use 'big lights'...

If you want better match to film in the digital world get an Arri or other high end camera types...
 
I know that the former owner of Raw Stock in NYC now works for Fuji. He sold some film to my roommate, which FUJI was just throwing out. He said he had to BEG the higher ups to rescue some of it from being destroyed so he could sell it off. Ridiculous .
 
robmneilson said:
I know that the former owner of Raw Stock in NYC now works for Fuji. He sold some film to my roommate, which FUJI was just throwing out. He said he had to BEG the higher ups to rescue some of it from being destroyed so he could sell it off. Ridiculous .
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yes Incredibly ridiculous

thanks so far.

any more info appreciated
 
Right guy's I hear you, - thanks jiclark -but for the rest of you guys
if instead of telling me off( I know not all of you have so dont take too much offense to that remark), you could perhaps help answer my question - I really want to purchase some film stock.

And if you could tell me where discontinued film stock is kept, it would help big time.
 
filmstock said:
Right guy's I hear you, - thanks jiclark -but for the rest of you guys
if instead of telling me off( I know not all of you have so dont take too much offense to that remark), you could perhaps help answer my question - I really want to purchase some film stock.

And if you could tell me where discontinued film stock is kept, it would help big time.
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The problem is 'we don't know where the vault of discontinued film stock' is... There may be expired stock at various distributors, and they may sell such stock at a discount, but 'discontinued'... what does that mean?

There are people to go to garage sales looking for old still film... since 35mm movie film is not all that common at garage sales... I have no idea... and having an in at Fuji or Kodak may give some knowledge, I don't think there are just vaults full of the stuff... unless someone has forgotten about a storeroom.

The Wife and my 'close' association with Fuji pretty much ended when they discontinued the S1-5 DSLR series... so there's no one I can 'call' on such a topic... and we were part of the Still film side of things... never really did make much contact with Kodak...

It would much easier to shoot on current stocks... and you may be able to get discounts on tails and short rolls if budget is your goal...
 
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