What's the best way to get audio on wide angle shots?

[jambredz]

interesting. sound is quite complex. I've studied more cinematography and thats what i luv, but to be well rounded i'm starting to familiarize myself with sound and techniques and i must say its quite a complex beast itself making me appreciate sound people and what they go through to get the job done also solidifying why i should hire..lol. thanks for the response.

You might get away with it. But I've seen scenes where the subject was 3/4 facing away from the lens, only the side of the face visible from the back, and it was obvious the sound came from a different take because the jaw movements didn't match. You have to be careful when cheating. There's also the element of sound perspective - such shots require techniques to make them sound like the viewer thinks they ought to sound from the camera position, even if they don't really sound that way at all.

 

[jpastuch]

I've cheated on lower-res stuff before and you can't tell. It's all about perspectives and what you're aiming for in your project- realism? Something different? Tarkovsky used sound in a completely unrealistic way and it works- very well. But that's Tarkovksy. And that's not commercials or anything.

Not everybody has money for lavs, so coming from a non-audio background, I'd say if you don't have the money but still want to keep the shot, get very very creative and have some back up before you go into post. If you're going to cheat, run some tests before you hit the location on the shoot-day.

But that's just me, definately listen to the other people here first.

 

[frostgfx]

I'd definitely recommend using Lavs on wide Master shots. It's difficult to orbit a boom pole back and forth more than a couple of feet and still catch the lines accurately. This was proven true just yesterday on a wide shot. Glad I had my wireless G2 Lavs handy!

You can rent wireless very reasonably in most major cities.