What's a good monitor to buy for the field?

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[quote author=Mitch_Ives link=board=Links;num=1089947626;start=15#18 date=07/16/04 at 13:21:08]

I'll have to disagree here. I have been using the Panasonic 7" LCD since the day they first shipped. I do very sophisticated lighting changes using it and I have no problem focusing or judging exposure. It is however the only (one short of the $2,200 TransVideo) that I'd make that statement with. All the other LCDs we've tried are lacking.

Yes, using LCDs does require some additional skill and experience, but I've been using it 2-3 years now on our studio equipped large cameras. I also use it on our two DVX-100A's. I think it gets back to what your experience and skill set is comfortable with. There is nothing wrong with CRT's and they are generally easier to use for many people.[/quote]
Hi Mitch!  What kind of lighting do you do? What kind of productions?  Maybe Scottdvx is in the same type of lighting field as you, and you guys can help each other out. ;D
 
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I just got a full resolution LCD today in the mail.. will try it out as it supposively has 2x the horizontal rez as the panasonic.
 
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jarred, does it have a standard 1/4 female mount on the bottom? looking forward to your review...
 
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Jarred, I knew you'd be up Big Dog! And Boo ofcourse... Are you guys hanging out in Jarred's backyard?
 
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ha, up from the frickin socal heat! i lost my pan so i fried an egg on the street... ;D by the way, how bout throwing in a gatorade when i pick up some items in a few weeks? :P
 
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Ha! that's funny Boo you rhymed, street --- heat!
 
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yeah.. 1/4 20 socket on the bottom and even has a VGA input so you could hook your computer up to it if you want.. I did a quick test and it was very nice, but it draws 10w of power so its a battery hog.
 
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Rush,
on your site, I couldn't find the Panny LCD monitor w/PANNY batt. adaptor. just canon/sony adaptors.
BTW, in 16x9 mode the Panny monitor's image is about the same size as my sony crt 8045 8" monitor in ws mode!!!! Sony ws image is letterboxed(Blk. bars on top&bottom). Panny fills the entire 7" screen in ws mode.
CRT for critical viewing. Panny LCD for run/gun.

chris/wash. dc
 
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jarred, forgot to ask...does it have s-video input?
 
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[quote author=monkeyking link=board=Links;num=1089947626;start=15#27 date=07/17/04 at 07:52:08]Rush,
  on your site, I couldn't find the Panny LCD monitor w/PANNY batt. adaptor. just canon/sony adaptors.
  BTW, in 16x9 mode the Panny monitor's image is about the same size as my sony crt 8045  8" monitor in ws mode!!!! Sony ws image is letterboxed(Blk. bars on top&bottom).  Panny fills the entire 7" screen in ws mode.
   CRT for critical viewing. Panny LCD for run/gun.

chris/wash. dc[/quote]
It's not on the site unfortunately, but we have it in stock, and it looks just like the other two.  Yeah, there is no doubt that the resolution is good on these little LCD's, that's why I said, "You can focus with them."  ;D  I agree with your last statement for this price range.  Obviously when you get into top-end LCD's you can do both on them. But... I am starting to consider that when someone asks me if they can do lighting and check colors with this LCD, I may start to say, "Some people can... But not most."  I think that may be a more accurate statement than "You can't do it, period, unless you're lighting in broad strokes."
 
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[quote author=Rush link=board=Links;num=1089947626;start=15#29 date=07/17/04 at 10:32:47]
It's not on the site unfortunately, but we have it in stock, and it looks just like the other two.  Yeah, there is no doubt that the resolution is good on these little LCD's, that's why I said, "You can focus with them."  ;D  I agree with your last statement for this price range.  Obviously when you get into top-end LCD's you can do both on them. But... I am starting to consider that when someone asks me if they can do lighting and check colors with this LCD, I may start to say, "Some people can... But not most."  I think that may be a more accurate statement than "You can't do it, period, unless you're lighting in broad strokes."[/quote]

All kidding aside, that is why Ikegami still sells a bunch of their T10. Of course, in some ways, I wish I could have an Ikegami for old time sake, just so I could say, "grab the Ike and lets get going." I used to live with a Ikegami 79E feeding a BVH2000 portable 1 inch VTR, and when my students complain about the weight of Panasonic D210, I am always tempted to see if we could find one of those old kits for a few weeks.
 
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[quote author=Rush link=board=Links;num=1089947626;start=15#20 date=07/16/04 at 23:45:19]
Hi Mitch!  What kind of lighting do you do?  What kind of productions?  Maybe Scottdvx is in the same type of lighting field as you, and you guys can help each other out.   ;D[/quote]

The full range: lot's of corporate, some theatrical, some broadcast as well as a lot of field. Lights are from a five light Arri kit...

Say hi to Cody for me. The original 100, the 100A, as well as all the add-ons (batteries, W/A, Anamorphic, Chroziel, etc.) came from EVS BTW...
 
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[quote author=Mitch_Ives link=board=Links;num=1089947626;start=30#32 date=07/18/04 at 10:21:23]

The full range: lot's of corporate, some theatrical, some broadcast as well as a lot of field. Lights are from a five light Arri kit...

Say hi to Cody for me. The original 100, the 100A, as well as all the add-ons (batteries, W/A, Anamorphic, Chroziel, etc.) came from EVS BTW...[/quote]
I did, he said that you're a good guy despite what everyone else says. ;D
 
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[quote author=Bill_Bolton link=board=Links;num=1089947626;start=30#34 date=07/19/04 at 15:45:44]Has anybody used a Nebtek?  www.nebtek.com[/quote]
Hi Bill, the capable and uber-sharp Panasonic monitor TC7WMS1 is the one modified by Nebtek for use with Sony/Canon/Panny batteries. ;D That becomes the NEB-70. Here is a link to the canon version (we are getting the panny up there soon):
http://www.evsonline.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NEB70LIC
 
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[quote author=Rush link=board=Links;num=1089947626;start=30#33 date=07/19/04 at 15:23:12]
I did, he said that you're a good guy despite what everyone else says.   ;D[/quote]

Oh, there goes his reputation...
 
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[quote author=Bill_Bolton link=board=Links;num=1089947626;start=30#34 date=07/19/04 at 15:45:44]Has anybody used a Nebtek?  www.nebtek.com[/quote]

Nebtek has a range of monitors from different manufacturers. If you go with their Panansonic model, then you're set. They can also convert your existing Panasonic LCD to work with the DVX batteries...
 
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Now here's a questions I haven't seen yet:

Could a field monitor double as a studio reference NTSC monitor?

I ask mainly because of a) budget, but also b) when I did some work in FCP on my Apple Studio Monitors I was thrilled with what I saw just viewing the video on my home TV (well adjusted, in proper lighting conditions) but when I dump the video to FCP it's MUCH darker.

So, if I got for example the JVC field monitor Rush has on EVS, could I use it in the studio for color-correction as well?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Yes. Ish.

For proper color correction you want a monitor with SMPTE-C phosphors, for accurate color reproduction. The JVC's don't have SMPTE-C phosphors, they all come with P-22, which is a consumer-grade phosphor, more like a television set. P22 is a lot brighter and richer and so people think it looks "better", but it's not as accurate. SMPTE-C is what you'll find in real pro monitors like the Sony 1354Q, but a SMPTE-C monitor is going to run you quite a bit more, like maybe $900+.
 
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