What order do you edit?

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Kugar13

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I finished my rough cuts to my first film (each scene on an individual timeline) and I'm wondering if the next step is to combine the scenes as one and start working on the audio, color correction, sfx, transitions, etc .... or, should I work on them individually until polished and then bring the film together. Any advice?

Also, is there a standard in regard to editing order: sound first, color correction first, transitions then sound, etc?

Thank you!
 
Review footage/ capture
rough cut clips/ insert it into timeline
add extra audio/ extra graphics and titles
check timing of cuts/ transitions
correct color
correct audio
fight with compression
 
Capt Quirk said:
Review footage/ capture
rough cut clips/ insert it into timeline
add extra audio/ extra graphics and titles
check timing of cuts/ transitions
correct color
correct audio
fight with compression
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LOL fight with compression.... I get the imPRESSION that it can be a pain in the tail-pan.....

So do everything together on the same timeline?
 
thx

thx

jade8472 said:
It varies but I would work on the sound next and then do color correction last.
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thx for your advice. would you do it individually (separate timelines) or all on one timeline?
 
I do, just because things tend to get all wonky when you shift them around. And yes, getting the right file size vs the best image is sort of like Mike Tyson vs Webster... A little one sided ;)
 
The path that I take is typically:

1 - import footage, locate circled takes
2 - rough assemble based upon story boards
3 - picture lock after several passes
4 - ADR / looping
5 - sound design
6 - color correction as needed
7 - title cards and rolling credits
 
Do you guys start by looking for good dialog (sound) or for good visuals when building a dialog scene? As in do you chose a given scene rather for its good acting based on what you hear or what you see. I say this as obviously you could replace one or the other.
 
Since not all edits are coincident with both the audio and video, you need to consider both uses. Off screen dialog (POV or OTS) can often be picked up from another take if that is what is better for the scene.

For me, unless the shot was unusable, I would bias my edit decisions toward the best performance.
 
thats performance as in visual performance. So if you had a take where the spoken word somehow came across not believable yet somehow the action was fine, you would rather take that take replace dialog, live with it...than take a perfect audio performance have it off screen than use a reaction shot?
 
Well it looks like everyone's on course. I do know that the mixdown and color correction are last before outputting to whatever format you want.
 
Kugar13 said:
thx for your advice. would you do it individually (separate timelines) or all on one timeline?
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I would try to do it just one scene at a time on several separate timelines.
 
I guess I do things a little differently than most. I do a very rough edit (throw out obviously bad takes, and get everything else down to one or two takes). Then I do color correction in After Effects, including deartifacting, and shot by shot color correction, and bring it back to Premiere for the rest of the fine edit, and audio. I set up a workflow so I can always tweak color correction later in After Effects and re-render, and it'll flow right back into Premiere with no effort.

I have a hard time getting a feel for the fine edit when the footage doesn't match perfect shot to shot. Have to have that color corrected before I can nail it.
 
I start off in seperate timelines for each scene and then when I'm satisfied with the cuts I combine them all on one timeline so I can work on how to best transistion them and also so I can better see how they all flow together. In a longer project it's more important on how the "whole" movie flows as compared to one little piece of it (but, don't get me worng they are all important). Then we work on audio and music on the master timeline, and then after that color correct and work on effects, I don't like to cc over and over so I try to have a "final" cut before I get into the "effects" side of it. The only problem with this is that it will require more processor speed to have all that information up at once.
 
Thanks guys/gals

Thanks guys/gals

Thanks everyone! It is nice to see what the experts are doing. Your advice is most helpful!
 
Audio or CC ?

Audio or CC ?

I have noticed the largest discrepancy is the order of doing audio and color correction. It seems like an even split. Does it make a difference which on to do first? Someone mentioned doing CC last b/c the effect slows down load and process time. Thoughts?
 
i guess it depends on the machine, i hate audio so i leave it for the end. LOl, and once again, after my 2nd doc is finished i'll just take it in to get it mixed by a pro :D rather spend the extra coin and have great audio!!! Cuz as we all know, you can have pretty shots but if audio sux, youre screwd!!!!
 
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