What kind of fixture/diffusion would you use?

leaftors said:
To get this lighting:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2...s_fictionalizes_childhood_smoking_photos.html

If you were to use kinos or fresnels - no access to softboxes.

I found a making of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k34jDCaQrHo

I'm not sure but are there 2 lights on the left (one key , one background) or is it just 1? And then there's a fill on the right and a hairlight top right.
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Well, you're probably not going to do it with a fresnel -- you most likely won't be able to diffuse it enough without a softbox -- unless you do it entirely as bounce. You'd want to use the kino, if it's around the same size as the softbox she has there (like a 4-bank).
 
David Jimerson said:
Well, you're probably not going to do it with a fresnel -- you most likely won't be able to diffuse it enough without a softbox -- unless you do it entirely as bounce. You'd want to use the kino, if it's around the same size as the softbox she has there (like a 4-bank).
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Sorry, just to clarify: I have access to diffusion to use with a fresnel. I just don't have the actual ''softbox'' fixtures.

What kind of diffusion would I want to use. E.g. a 1k with a 4x4 opal or 1/2 grid cloth?
 
leaftors said:
Sorry, just to clarify: I have access to diffusion to use with a fresnel. I just don't have the actual ''softbox'' fixtures.
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Here's the problem -- even at full flood, using diffusion won't be entirely successful, because you'll have a hot spot in the middle. For good, soft light, you want the light to be even across the entire surface of the diffusion.

You can mitigate that hot spot somewhat by pulling the fixture back, but then you lose brightness, possibly too much.

If you have a fairly sizable kino, then that's your better bet.

Of course, you can and should experiment and see what you get.
 
If you don't have a softbox, just get an umbrella (preferably with white backing rather than silver, it's softer). Cheap as chips, and you get beautiful, wrapping, directional soft light. Personally I prefer brollies to softboxes anyway.

As for the lighting setup. To replicate it I'd put a kino (or umbrella) high and to camera left, with the backlight (a soft one from the looks of it) slightly behind the talent and to camera right.
 
to use a fresnel you can bound it off a 3x3 or 4x4 board and get very nice soft light, its same as a softbox or kino would give you. It doesn't have to hit the board dead on and can be below the board or off to the side. The downside to this method is it can be hard to control the spill but if you have more distance between your subject and the background and ceiling it should be ok.

I use this method a lot for creating instant soft light using my ARRI's, its fast and easy.
 
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