What is a Vegas user likely to love/hate about Edius?
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medeamajic
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Edius is easy to use but I think Premiere has much better GUI. Plus the integration with other Adobe products can not be beat. Having said that I hate the GUI of Vegas.
Edius is a reasonable middle ground between Vegas and Premiere/FCP, though it tends more toward the latter.
You're going to miss a lot of the audio and compositing capabilities of Vegas. You'll probably like that it more readily accepts some video formats.
You're going to miss a lot of the audio and compositing capabilities of Vegas. You'll probably like that it more readily accepts some video formats.
As was said the audio side is one thing , you would have to use a program like Sound Forge....etc , and the the key framing functions in Vegas, Edius lags a bit on the side. But saying that it 's not that bad and you can do a fair bit. But what Edius lacks in some parts is made up in many other ways Stability, Speed(RT), ease of use , Image quolty ..........etc
I have can to live with some of its quirks (I donot like TMPro) , I do miss things i was able to do in PPRO2, but I can live with out it . The time i save in editing in Edius I am able to be more creative in PS, Imagnate , Audio etc......
If you try Edius there are a few setting you will have to change once installed, once they are changes in the settup of the package , it is a breeze.
Good luck
I have can to live with some of its quirks (I donot like TMPro) , I do miss things i was able to do in PPRO2, but I can live with out it . The time i save in editing in Edius I am able to be more creative in PS, Imagnate , Audio etc......
If you try Edius there are a few setting you will have to change once installed, once they are changes in the settup of the package , it is a breeze.
Good luck
Tommy K
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Premiere has a better GUI? I beg to differ. Edius 5.1 has the most user friendly GUI of all the NLE's. I have used them all and switched over from Avid MC to Edius. Edius will accept just about anything you can trow on the timeline and do it gracefully. It gets better with every release. It comes bundled with some nice FX extras as well.
pathfinder
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medeamajic
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Edius is easy to use but the GUI gets cluttered way to quick. I also used to edit on an Avid MC. Our MC was based on the old Targa 2000 with the Pinnacle Genni board for the RT. It was an ass kicking system back in 1998. Avid has my respect as does Edius but I do think the GUI of Premiere Pro is much better than Edius. We will have to disagree.
Edius lacks good audio tools as does Premiere but the Integration of Sound Booth is excellent. Sound Booth does some realy cool thing as does AE, Encore and the rest of the Adboe CS4 collection. Edius is not a bad editor it just can not compete with the CS4 Master Collection.
Tommy K
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What version have you used? The most recent 5.11? Probably not
Edius is really designed for dual screens, which most people use. No clutter at all. Edius isn't meant to compete with the $1800 CS4 Master Collection. Which I own BTW. It is meant to compete with PPro and the host of other NLE's floating around. I have a choice of using Edius 5.11 or PPro CS4. Edius runs rings around PPro as a long form editor. It can use any file format you can throw at it. It does have good audio capabilities now with VST plugins capability. It seems like a lot of people are switching over to Edius these days.medeamajic
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What version have you used? The most recent 5.11? Probably not
I do not want to go tit for tat guys but I guess I am going to have to. The CS4 integration can not be over looked. Many folks will indeed buy the Production Premium. The last I knew Edisu did not have a normalize audio or a spectrum feequency editor. As far as I now Edius does not have anything like Sound Booth's music scoring. It is a real nice feature and songs get added to the library each month. I think with Edius you need Smart Sound or something simular don't you?. Sound Booth Can be switched to a mulittrack view editor for high-end audio editng. I don't think Edius realy has the audio editng that Sound Booth/Premiere can offer.
Dual monitors? Yes Edius does work decent with dual monitors but the GUI sucks compared to most other NLE. When you edit a PIP a plugin style PIP editor opens up as opposed to FCP, Premiere and Liquid which have you edit the PIP using the program monitor to place the PIP and then the editable parameters show up where the source monitor was. It is a much better use of screen realestate.
Edisu 5 does have decent layout tool as it does put the layout on the alpha channel. In other words you can indeed layout a PIP and the video under it will also been seen. Version 3.5 did not work this well. You can indeed crop the PIP over time with the layout tool but it is a real pain in the ass. The 3D PIP does allow for croping but it does it funky and then you can not add other keyers like you can with the layout tool. It is a real pain in the ass compared to most NLE system to do real simple task like croping and transitions on PIPs..
I think you would agree I do indeed no how to use Edius. Edit on a laptop with Edius and then use PP CS4 and let me know which one worked best for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhp4NsJFRpU
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El Director
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Not to be rude, but the question was about Edius versus Vegas. Quit pitching your favorites. They have their own threads. He obviously doesn't like premiere, so I don't know why it's part of the discussion.
medeamajic
Carbonite Member
Can you read? Other program get mentioned all the time in threads. Deal with it rather than being rude yourself.
I have used Edius even more than you I imagine and my info is indeed valid. It is good to point out the pros and cons and compare it to other programs. It is also good to correct miss information. Wouldn't you agree?
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El Director
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It just seems like a waste of time to be reading a pitch for premiere when they just wanted to know the difference between Edius and Vegas. I found only one reply that truly answered his question. But yes, I agree with you that it's good to correct misinformation.
pathfinder
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I would assumed that those who post their questions in here wouldn't mind reading other's opinions, be it to the point or not. If someone truly just wants to know the difference between Edius and Vegas, it should be a simple process of going to Canopus and Vegas web-sites and read their features, specs, etc. :cheesy:
doumm
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i own and use both
i own and use both
but version 8 of Vegas and 5 edius, both are good middle ground nle's. Edius is better with different codecs, also handles 720 50p from a JVC for example smoother than vegas. I think Edius is a simpler NLE in it's flexability, but makes up for it with it's stability.
I think no editing nle is faster than vegas though, in the ability to chuck something together quickly and intuitively is the Vegas forte. But that doesn't necessarily translate to quick rendering, full framerate previews type quick.
Use a trial and get the feel is the only way to judge, I don't know why, but my hdv looks better and cleaner in Vegas, less macroblocking. But slomo stuff looks better and is handled better with Edius, so I use both together, plus of course the audio element of Vegas even without plugins is superior.
i own and use both
but version 8 of Vegas and 5 edius, both are good middle ground nle's. Edius is better with different codecs, also handles 720 50p from a JVC for example smoother than vegas. I think Edius is a simpler NLE in it's flexability, but makes up for it with it's stability.
I think no editing nle is faster than vegas though, in the ability to chuck something together quickly and intuitively is the Vegas forte. But that doesn't necessarily translate to quick rendering, full framerate previews type quick.
Use a trial and get the feel is the only way to judge, I don't know why, but my hdv looks better and cleaner in Vegas, less macroblocking. But slomo stuff looks better and is handled better with Edius, so I use both together, plus of course the audio element of Vegas even without plugins is superior.
I Think it is about what works for you there is no prefect solution , Edius and PPRO work for me , i dislike Vegas,Avid and LE. I have made more money and able to work much fast, stable, with great results in the end ........... etc in edius than any other NLE. I am staying for now with Edius 4.61. \\
Some say it has poor audio tools well it is not a audio editor, thats why you have programs like Sound forge , Adobe Aud etc ........ same goes for graphic's use programs like PS AE etc .
Also if you need a normalizing tool there is a free one vst plug-in avaible on the net . if you cannot fined it contact me i will email it to you.
Some say it has poor audio tools well it is not a audio editor, thats why you have programs like Sound forge , Adobe Aud etc ........ same goes for graphic's use programs like PS AE etc .
Also if you need a normalizing tool there is a free one vst plug-in avaible on the net . if you cannot fined it contact me i will email it to you.
medeamajic
Carbonite Member
That is what makes the CS4 Production Premium such a good value. You get Sound Booth, AE and Photoshop for less than buying them seperately. Once you see how well they integrate I doubt you will continue to use Edius. Edius is a good NLE but it can not do everything that CS4 can. That is my only drawback for Edius. I admit for some Edius may work best.
Dustin Wadsworth
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I don't think anybody is arguing that Edius can do all that cs4 can.
Sound booth doesn't really compare to Vegas' audio tools. Sound booth is for someone who doesn't know how to use things like eq and compression, which is essential in making your film sound good and it does a really bad job in both those areas. While integration of soundbooth and PPro is great, it's almost useless compared to vegas' audio tools. Why CS4 didn't come with Adobe Audition I have no idea.
This review shows you the difference:
Audition vs Soundbooth
Sound booth doesn't really compare to Vegas' audio tools. Sound booth is for someone who doesn't know how to use things like eq and compression, which is essential in making your film sound good and it does a really bad job in both those areas. While integration of soundbooth and PPro is great, it's almost useless compared to vegas' audio tools. Why CS4 didn't come with Adobe Audition I have no idea.
This review shows you the difference:
Audition vs Soundbooth
medeamajic
Carbonite Member
Soundbooth can be viewed in a multitrack GUI. CS4 does not come with Audition because it does not work on the Mac side. There is integration between Audition and PP CS4 on the PC side if you have Audition. The last I knew Vegas did not have a fequency spectrum analylzer/editor but it may now. SoundBooth has had it for years as well as Audition. I don' think Vegas has a soundtrack/composing editor like Soundbooth. I think you have to buy Smart Sound with Vegas and Edius. I made mention of this in another post in this thread. I used to have Vegas myself. I still have my Edius as I type this. Niether of them offer a better solution than Adobe based on my needs. I think you should at least watch a few Sound Booth tutorials before posting bogus information.
SoundBooth does a really bad job? Please educate yourself. It is OK to like Vegas but the claims you make are pure bull crap and not really helpful to anyone.
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Having started this thread, I want to thank everyone for sharing their ideas and opinions. I realize that it's commonplace for thread to wander. I have no problem with that nor with those who attempt to bring it back on track. I've found this forum to be a great source of knowledge. Edius users seem quite happy with their NLE which is always a good sign. Thanks again.
ProfessorU
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I use Edius 4.6 and I miss being able to use keyframed motion. I have to do all that work in AE. I think Vegas offers some kind of keyframable motion but I don't remember anymore.
Also, Vegas has a history of supporting Sony cameras at the expense of other formats. I really enjoyed editing quickly with Vegas when it was still with Sonic Foundry. That legacy is why Vegas audio is so intuitive.
Also, Vegas has a history of supporting Sony cameras at the expense of other formats. I really enjoyed editing quickly with Vegas when it was still with Sonic Foundry. That legacy is why Vegas audio is so intuitive.