what do i need? part 2

ugafan

ugafan

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sorry if i annoyed some people with my vague/uninformed question from earlier. here is a more descriptive thread of what i have and what i'm looking for.

i'm doing a feature length comedy. most of it will be shot inside a house. i'm financing it by myself and don't have much to spend on audio equipment. (preferably under $1,000).

here is what i have:
dvx 100b
oktava

here is what i'm getting, but haven't ordered yet (i've already researched these, so i don't need any suggestions here. just letting you know what i plan on getting):
shockmount
boom pole
windscreen
xlr cable

this is what i need to know.
--to get good audio, should i invest in a second microphone? i know a shotgun would be good for outdoors, but would it benefit me indoors? or would lavs be good here?
--if i have another microphone, would you suggest getting a mixer or just hooking it up to the dvx?

thanks in advance.
 
If you are shooting mostly inside on a low budget, the okatva with the things you mentioned should do a good job. If you have a lot of people to cover in one scene, you may need more mics but it is hard to say. If you plan how your are going to get your sound when you do you shot list etc you may be able to overcome your one-mic problems. With the money you have you will barely have enough for what you have alerady listed.

kssm shockmount ($100 @ trew)
Baby Ball Gag 20mm ($140 @ trew)
Gitzo G7680c ($250 @ trew)
XLR ($? $50)

$540 total

You have don't enough to get a Mix Pre ($665) but it would be nice if you can sneak over budget. Another thing that I noticed is that you don't mention headphones (Sony 7506 $100 @ trew) and that is super critical!!!! You can't just use any old $20 headphones. A wireless would be nice but the minimum acceptable one is the Sennheiser eW g2 ($500) and that comes with a terrible lav (the me2) you need to replace it with something else (like the at899 with the correct connector for the senn wireless (ask your salesperson @ trew) and that costs $200 (or more for better mickes like the sennheiser MKE2 or the sanken Cos11 or a countryman B6). So if you see where I am going with this, you budget is not big enough to do much more.

The main thing to do here is get the best equipment you can afford for each piece of gear. Don't save money buying a cheap shockmount or boom or wind protection or xlr since you will just need to replace them later!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
saneproductions said:
If you are shooting mostly inside on a low budget, the okatva with the things you mentioned should do a good job. If you have a lot of people to cover in one scene, you may need more mics but it is hard to say. If you plan how your are going to get your sound when you do you shot list etc you may be able to overcome your one-mic problems. With the money you have you will barely have enough for what you have alerady listed.

kssm shockmount ($100 @ trew)
Baby Ball Gag 20mm ($140 @ trew)
Gitzo G7680c ($250 @ trew)
XLR ($? $50)

$540 total

You have don't enough to get a Mix Pre ($665) but it would be nice if you can sneak over budget. Another thing that I noticed is that you don't mention headphones (Sony 7506 $100 @ trew) and that is super critical!!!! You can't just use any old $20 headphones. A wireless would be nice but the minimum acceptable one is the Sennheiser eW g2 ($500) and that comes with a terrible lav (the me2) you need to replace it with something else (like the at899 with the correct connector for the senn wireless (ask your salesperson @ trew) and that costs $200 (or more for better mickes like the sennheiser MKE2 or the sanken Cos11 or a countryman B6). So if you see where I am going with this, you budget is not big enough to do much more.

The main thing to do here is get the best equipment you can afford for each piece of gear. Don't save money buying a cheap shockmount or boom or wind protection or xlr since you will just need to replace them later!!!!!!!!!!!!
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thanks for the advice!
 
I bought my 7506 at Full Compass for $90 so you can either get it there or see if Trew will match the price.
 
a second microphone is less important than being able to get the one mic you have into the perfect places, at the right times, in the right environments. you need to find the CLOSEST position to the mouth for the mic a shot allows, learn how to quickly, quietly and accurately swing a boom, and you need the QUIETEST location you can get or create through getting inventive with blankets/killing AC etc.
 
Who is going to be responsible for getting your audio? Task this person with learning what you will need and not need.

In other words, after spend $1000 on audio gear, who is going to run it? If it's you, then keep investigating, but if you plan on recruiting someone, let them figure this stuff out.

Good luck
 
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