"We don't need to slate, it takes to long"

[Postmaster]

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Pluralyes has so far failed. I'm not editing (since I require an actual pay cheque) but I imported the clips into CS5 premiere and tried Pluraleyes on them. It's not working for some reason (could be me and premiere, I never use it) and they don't have a version for edius or avid yet..

Not sure if this helps:


Sequences that are in bins will not show up in the sequence drop-down.
Workaround: Move any sequence that you want to sync from the bin to the top level in the browser.

The list of sequences is hard to read.
Workaround: Move the mouse over the drop-down area and they will become visible.

CS4 projects that contain stereo audio-only clips may fail to open in PluralEyes.

Not supported yet: MXF media files

Frank

 

[kgimedia]

Relying on technological fixes to save you from half-assed procedures is a gamble, and usually a bad one. Use the tech correctly in the first place, and you're stylin'.

I know the tech has been around for many years, but does it feel to anyone else that the clapper itself was a "technological fix" born from half-assed procedures when everybody was trying to figure out this whole "talky" thing.

 

[mvb]

Yeah, it's a visual slate. The first or second frame displays the info visually, as if it's part of the video, but you can't sort on it, and in the media pool, it's too small to read.

I'm guessing you don't really use Raylight Ultra because your statements about it are wrong.

The User Clip name is in the "Tape Name" column and is sortable and searchable, and you can drag that column over to the first position if necessary.

 

[Sad Max]

I know the tech has been around for many years, but does it feel to anyone else that the clapper itself was a "technological fix" born from half-assed procedures when everybody was trying to figure out this whole "talky" thing.

Only to the degree that the centrifugal turbine was a half-assed fix while Whittle's guys were trying to figure out the whole "jet engine" thing...

 

[David Jimerson]

I'm guessing you don't really use Raylight Ultra because your statements about it are wrong.

The User Clip name is in the "Tape Name" column and is sortable and searchable, and you can drag that column over to the first position if necessary.

Then I stand corrected and the UserClip Name can be sorted on, which is to the good.

 

[kgimedia]

Only to the degree that the centrifugal turbine was a half-assed fix while Whittle's guys were trying to figure out the whole "jet engine" thing...

LOL! I'm sure this whole "jet engine" thing is a fad just like the clapper.

 

[David G. Smith]

So if you are sorting using the metadata, are you assigning the scene/take number to the clip when you shoot each take? Are you still keeping a camera log, and how do you have the clip info documented in the continuity script?

 

[David Jimerson]

There are a number of ways you can do it. But if you do it the way I showed above, the take numbers advance automatically every time you stop and start recording.

You can upload separate metadata files every shot you plan to shoot. You keep them on an SD card, and when you're ready to move on to Scene 2C, you load the 2C metadata from the card. You have to reset the take numbers, though.

(Actually, the number will advance no matter what text you put in front of it, so it's not really "take numbers" per se; that's just how I set it up.)

I certainly wouldn't tell anyone not to keep a separate camera log, but if you do it correctly, you can do pretty much everything you'd do with the log in the metadata itself. It's then accessible (and editable) in P2 viewer or other software, and in the NLE if it's metadata aware. PP CS5 does it best.

 

[David G. Smith]

Thanks David. Yeah I have only shot and edited fictional narrative on 16mm and DV, as of yet, and I would not feel comfortable with not doing a camera log or visual slates. I am prepping a fictional narrative project that I will be shooting on a 550D. The clip numbering convention seems very straight forward with that camera also, but I have not tried naming the clips on it. It is the changing of the cards and reformatting/deleting clips on the cards that scares the bejezus outta me, in regards to keeping the footage organized.

Besides, I love the look on an inexperienced cast/crew member when you tell them that a tail slate is SUPPOSED TO BE UPSIDE DOWN! (Insert mental image of confused puppy here).

 

[Postmaster]

LOL, yeah - I sometimes do that upside down tail slate on purpose, even if the scene didn`t really need it, just to see their faces.

Good clean fun.

Frank

 

[Denwa]

Next time I'll draw the scene/take/shot onto the directors forehead and make him/her pose for the cameras and yell "BEEP".



Actually I need to get a black t-shirt made with a large white slate printed on it in some sort of coating that is dry eraseable. lol I can then give that to the AD or whoever. lol I'm sure it will remind them to keep track.