Was this shot taken on ARRI Trinity or another gimbal?

Sometimes it's proprietary equipment, or at least the support gear/machines moving the camera(s) which are exclusive to the crew who built them for the director.

Which show?

People do this with one-handed gimbals, but the cameras are like 5 lbs.
 
NorBro said:
Sometimes it's proprietary equipment, or at least the support gear/machines moving the camera(s) which are exclusive to the crew who built them for the director.

Which show?

People do this with one-handed gimbals, but the cameras are like 5 lbs.
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Yes, I suppose you could do this on a Ronin-S if you were a baller, since it has 360-degree roll in flashlight mode, but you'd have to be remarkably accurate and steady as you brought the camera down into position for the rest of the walk and talk

In any case, I'm pretty sure the rig was way too big for that (I think some sort of Alexa + Cooke anamorphics)

And I don't think it's a proprietary rig built for the show be cause they only started doing moves like this halfway thru season 2, so I think they brought on new gear

The show is Star Trek: Discovery on CBS. I heartily recommend the first 6 episodes of Season 1. It went WAY downhill after that after they replaced their perfectionist showrunner with one who could finish on schedule. They also ordered extra episodes to wring more value out of the budget, so those episodes are fluffy garbage. But I'm still watching thru season 2 because I bonded with the characters in the beginning when it was good (plus I love Trek what can I say)
 
Yea...I was thinking the walk looks like it was stabilized somehow.

The entire movement actually kind of looks like some post-production was added.
 
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ahalpert said:
Yeah but this is an expensive show, why wouldn't they use the good stuff?
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Yeah there's no way they used the minity, I'm just spreading the word of the knock off.

Wouldn't it just be MP, R2 or Arri something? Are you just curious or are you attempting a similar move?

The Ronin S can supposedly be controlled with the master wheels. Tiny camera/wireless monitoring with a (probably rented) master wheels set up would be awesome.
 
rob norton said:
Yeah there's no way they used the minity, I'm just spreading the word of the knock off.

Wouldn't it just be MP, R2 or Arri something? Are you just curious or are you attempting a similar move?

The Ronin S can supposedly be controlled with the master wheels. Tiny camera/wireless monitoring with a (probably rented) master wheels set up would be awesome.
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I'm just curious, though I thought it was a pretty cool move.

I guess I thought the Trinity set-up (or that minity) would make it really easy to keep a steady camera height and move from high to low.

Although now that I look at it again, the camera height doesn't change as much as I thought. I thought it started higher and ended lower. So, I suppose that any of the 3 rigs rob mentioned could pull it off with a remote operator without too much trouble. Maybe even manageable on a Ronin-s!
 
ahalpert said:
I'm just curious, though I thought it was a pretty cool move.

I guess I thought the Trinity set-up (or that minity) would make it really easy to keep a steady camera height and move from high to low.

Although now that I look at it again, the camera height doesn't change as much as I thought. I thought it started higher and ended lower. So, I suppose that any of the 3 rigs rob mentioned could pull it off with a remote operator without too much trouble. Maybe even manageable on a Ronin-s!
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This set up doesn't look too heavy but you can see a readyrig jib-type move - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeCfdjuSpFY

I think you'd still need to hold the weight at the top and do a smooth transition so don't know how it would work with a really heavy ronin 2/camera package.

I'm sure the move works as a transition that fits with the show but I'm generally not a fan of agressive rolls.
 
The ability to separately control third axis roll on a SteadiCam has been around for quite some time, although modern systems such as the ARRI Trinity are certainly updates in the design. The MK-V Alien Revolution cage would be one of the earliest iterations I can think of offhand that could do such a move with ease. I think that's been around for a decade or more.
 
rob norton said:
I'm sure the move works as a transition that fits with the show but I'm generally not a fan of agressive rolls.
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Neither am I, nor am I a fan of obtrusive, totally unmotivated camera moves to transition scenes. But in this case, I thought it worked (although you don't get to see the scene transition since I started from the first shot of the second scene)

I just thought it had nice momentum leading into the walk and talk, and also a bit of disorientation but in a very smooth way
 
Mitch Gross said:
The ability to separately control third axis roll on a SteadiCam has been around for quite some time, although modern systems such as the ARRI Trinity are certainly updates in the design. The MK-V Alien Revolution cage would be one of the earliest iterations I can think of offhand that could do such a move with ease. I think that's been around for a decade or more.
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There was a lot of cutting edge, bad-ass stuff done with the Alien back-in the day. There was a crazy anti-smoking ad kind of shot from the perspective of the smoke floating around and what was even more impressive than the actual ad was the BTS watching the operator walk around this diner/restaurant performing the shot. There was also the demo for the MK V following an actor around and up and down an open set of stairs. Pretty sick stuff, especially considering this was well over a decade ago.

I found the operator on that ad, but it looks like the video has been pulled from his site. And I'm pretty sure the operator on the shot used for the MK-V AR demo was the op who performed the famous True Detective oner.
 
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