Voice Over

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Hey Everyone, before I posted this I did a search on here for anything on voice over, I couldn't find anything. Can someone please tell me what's the best trick-method to do a voice over if I have no type of pro equipment in Vegas 6.

Here's the scene... I shot this bar scene with the DVX100a, and I used the built in Mic, the scene came out great but the background noise in the bar overshadows the actors Dialogue a little. What's the best way to fix this? I'm thinking I can just have the Actors come in a silent room with the DVX, and record their exact lines again then match it in Vegas later. Is there a better method.. just for reference, I'm about 3 days into using my Vegas, I'm really a new jack, I'm trying to make this deadline. Or, how about if I record the Dialogue into a CD track, does Vegas have a way to Sync the recorded voices on the CD track to the Voices in the video?

I know u guys are Vegas experts, any words of advice would be greatly appreciated. I do notice there is a training DVD on Vegas 6, that's my next purchase, but for now can u guys help?

Later,
 
Well . . .

What you're describing is standard fare in movie production; it's generally referred to as "ADR" or "looping." Much of the dialog recorded on site in movies is discarded and replaced using methods similar to what you're saying (obviously, more sophisticated equipment is used). Actors sit in a soundproof studio watching the footage over and over (hence "looping"), listening the dialog in headphones, and then trying to match their vocal performance in a microphone.

So, you're on the right track. Obviously, the better the microphones and the quieter the room, the better.

This certainly isn't anything unique to Vegas. Any editor will allow you to replace dialogue; it's a matter of deleting the old audio clip and replacing it with the new. Using the waveforms on the timeline, you should be able to match them up fairly quickly.

You can record sound directly into Vegas, but I'd recommend recording on a separate device and bringing the clips in.

There are scripts available online (check VASST or jetdv, for example) to synch up clips based on a sound reference -- if you do well at re-recording the dialog, you should be able to utilize them. Otherwise, matching them up freehand isn't that hard.
 
Well I can give you access to a VO studio if you are near Sumter, South Carolina. I have ProTools and you can import a MOV file and actually watch it and rerecord vocals while its playing. Its sweet and you can do it inside of vegas as well though I say protools is a better program for the tweaking of that audio.

I wouldn't suggest what David said about recording in a seperate device because as long as you have decent quality equiptment (meaning mics and soundcard) you will get the best and easiest to edit quality through that. And it will take the least amount of time. I see you are new to vegas but its really not that hard.

With your soundcard, plug a good mic into it and it doesn't have to be $100 mics. A Shure PG58 would work perfect for this really. And then add a new audio track and set the input source to the mic and use headphones to hear the sound, then just keep making runs trying to get the new audio to look natural!
 
I got from your post that you don't have any mics other than what's on your camera. I suggest getting a good mic to record the VO, but if you can't, here's an option. Render the dialog to be replaced to a wav file, and burn a loop of it (repeat it 10 or 15 times) to an audio CD. Put your talent very close to your camera mic (1 or 2 feet) and play the audio CD back to him with headphones while he repeats the dialog (you don't need him to be perfect through the whole thing, just get it a piece of dialog at a time) and you record him with the camera. When he thinks that he got it in sync, digitize the new audio and lay it in. Just use the waveforms to help you sync it up. Good luck, and for your next production, invest in a mic and a boom pole if you can.
 
Ok. I got a couple of ideas. I got confuse a little with the waveforms on the timeline thing, but I expect it, because I litererally took the software out the box and began editing, I'm clueless on everything, basically I'm learning as I go along type of thing. But once I'm done with this project, I will sit down get all the tutorials and learn this DAMN amazing software. I want to know it all. But thanks guys for the suggestions. I will try all the ideas and see which one works best.

skettalee said:
With your soundcard, plug a good mic into it and it doesn't have to be $100 mics. A Shure PG58 would work perfect for this really. And then add a new audio track and set the input source to the mic and use headphones to hear the sound, then just keep making runs trying to get the new audio to look natural!
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Skettalee, say I plug the mic in and I do the input source, will it recognize the mic, I'm not home now so I can't try it, but oh hell.... never mind, trial and error.. but thanks for all the help! I need to get paid and buy that tutorial DVD.

And yes, my next project will be alot better, I'm buying lights boom mics and stuff. Well forth it, Let me ask u guys this, even with a boom mic, don't sometimes you still have to do voice over? I need a $econd job
 
Room tone room tone room tone. Did anyone mention that?


Go back and record the bar without the actors, just the background, and mix *that* with the soundproof-room-actor-voices.

Trying to match what they said then with what they are saying now is possible....but damn. If you turn down the original enough so it doesn't interfere with the new, you'll lose the background, too.

They *still* have to match what they said originally...or you'll see the bad lipsync...but that's probably easier than eliminating the echo you'll get if it doesn't match perfectly.
 
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