Viva video!!

dstevens

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Warning! Yet another thread about the 'film-look'. If you're thoroughly sick of the subject, skip this.

I've been using my dvx for both film projects and event videography. I tried the Scene F3 for events, and I love the look. There's something vibrant about it that grabs me, despite any 'video-ness'
The thought also strikes me that I passed up a couple of great cameras because they didn't have the 24p option, and I felt I had to have the 'film look' I don't regret buying this excellent camera, but now I find myself drawn to the 'video-look'.


I've thought about concentrating on creating interesting, compelling looks in video. Not worry about de-interlacing and all that jazz. Just take the look the camera gives, and work with knee, gamma, matrix, etc as well as lighting, set design and post.

The ideal result won't look like film, but it might look interesting, even compelling. Why spend so much time, money and angst trying to copy a format you're not working in? Why not artistically get the most out of the medium you *are* working in?

I understand it's a different story if someone is paying you to create a certain look, of course.

Sort of a side note, but all the back and forth on progressive v. interlaced v hdv v. pseudo-hdv, etc, etc is a bit like religion. Everyone follows whatever they are used to, and figures anyone with a different preference is the heretic.

So I say video for the video-istas! We don't need no stinking film-look!
 
I've been shooting a lot of 60i (we have dvxs here at school but never touch anything progressive for some reason) and it looks nice enough. To be honest, I far prefer 24p (just being honest), but with color correction and stuff, you can get beautiful 60i video. I like 30p most for events because I hate interlacing but like handheld telephoto shots which get choppy at 24p.

To be honest, though (and I'm a HUGE advocate of using each camera for its strengths instead of trying to emulate 35mm)...I've never shot anything with my camera (except experimentally or by accident) at anything other than 24p, and I doubt I ever will, except for slow motion sequences.
 
Oh, and after some bizarre tests that turned out really ugly, I always shoot clean (-2 master ped, +3 color, normal matrix, cinegamma maybe) then mess stuff up in post. You have more control and less noise that way.
 
Yeah, these are matters of aesthestics and taste, in the end. It just seems there's such an emphasis on the 'film-look' that other considerations and possibilities get ignored.
 
This is a really good point. Video is great in its own right. It all comes down to aesthetics and the ability of the shooter and editor to get the desired look. Doesn't matter if you want the 'film look' or the 'video look' because each has its advantages and disadvantages.

I recently got the DVX because it has the ability to do both. There are situations where I want that crisp, clean video look, and other times i want that soft film look. Just depends on where you are and what you're shooting.
 
Its entirely up to what you use the camera for. The great thing about the DVX is you can shoot excellent 60i and 24 p/pa but if you want some middle ground you can also shoot in 30p. Personally I love 30p for music video.
 
I'm a 24p guy, but that's the great thing about the DVX. You can get so many different looks out of this small camera.
 
I enjoy shooting with the gain all the way up. Through the roof. I find it takes "the edge" off. Try it, and be delighted.

-a
 
tru dat. Versatility.

Origionally i wanted a PD170 cause it was the Sharpest video you can get for a managable price. Then i wento B&H and saw sitting on a mount this "bad ass looking Darthvader camera".... ( thats what my dad calls it because he thinks the matte box thing looks liek a TIE fighter)

I saw the video. pd170 left my brain entirely. Not only did the 60i look just as good, but the 24P ..... oh the 24p.....

I havent used the 60i yet except for slomo.

Maybe someday......
 
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