Vegas versus Premiere Pro

scannon

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I have seen a lot of positive comments regarding Vegas and its output quality. Also I like the ease of its handling of 24p and pulldown.

I am considering the purchase of the Vegas 7 + DVD package and wondered if there are any on this board who would share their thoughts on the quality and features of Vegas vs Premiere Pro 2.0

I am comfortable with the interoperability of the Adobe Suite and have learned to to love and hate the features of Premiere and now the Pro version.

Switching would mean a new learning curve and comfort level but if their are sufficient reasons I am ready. The main consideration now is my move towards HDV/HD using the Canon A1 and the HVX200

Your thoughts are appreciated.

SCannon
 
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Nothing is better for 24p than Vegas.

Vegas has been optimized in version 7 for HDV.

The newest version of RayLight lets you open HVX 720pN MXFs right on the timeline. You can use RayLight with Premiere, but you have to do the conversions; you can't open the MXFs on the timeline.

Vegas has a more powerful toolset, overall, and many more output options.

And, it's a lot cheaper.

Premiere's main (and only) advantage is the integration with the Adobe suite. For some people, that seems to be enough.
 
David:

Thanks for your reply I am continuing to play with the demo version and I am gaining comfort with it. Now I just need to adjust to the different approach it uses to adding transitions and the envelopes, etc. I already appreciate the way it works wih 24p.

Thanks again for your insight.

SCannon
 
You can buy it without fear, Vegas is very good, I use it since v5.0 and it keeps on improving each new editon.
 
VEGAS IS GREAT!
using both Vegas since V5 and Adobe Pr. since V5,
Vegas is less resource demanding and the same time has better performance, and if we're talking HD, no doubts Vegas wins!
 
Vegas is also more rock solid, it won't crash on you. It doesn't require a heavy duty pc-system for normal DV editing. And it has the best audio features of all NLE's, I mean:
- working and rendering in Dolby Digital 5.1 surround (AC3) without the need of buying expensive plug-in's (Premiere Pro).
- every track has standard a flexible EQ, compressor, noise gate, etc.
- support for 24 bit/96 kHz audio;
- you can drop AAC, WMA and MP3 audiofiles on the timeline during editing, no need of converting on forehand to WAV format;
- support for VST plug-in's;
- etc.
The enclosed MPEG2 encoder is very good and works from the timeline, especially if you use the render quality Best and the 2-Pass option.
DVD-Architect has all the options you can think of. And it works good (again: very stable), despite it's own typical user interface (I got used to it, so everybody can).
 
Ide agree with David up top, the fact that it can integrate into PS and AE and Encore like it can is worth using it. I have been using it for years so switching to Vegas seems pointless to me. One thing I never liked in Vegas was the export functions, they seemed awful annoying to me, in the few ive used even if you choose Uncompressed it asks you if you want Good, great or best quality? WTF sony lol. Ah well I like Premiere but I switched to FCS after I got my Mac but now that they are returning it to OSX I just might switch back. Ugh so many options its making my head spin.

- Kyle
 
scannon,

Since you're trying out demos, I think you owe it to yourself to try out the Edius 4 demo if you haven't already.

My personal experience: I tried the demo of (the now old) Vegas 6, it couldn't handle Hi-Def at all. So I downloaded and edited a project (wedding video) on Edius 4. Wow! Real-time features were superb.

The Vegas 7 came out, and was dirt cheap (235 for the whole kit) and it's big plus was real-time HDV editing. So I bought it, with Cinescore. I've used it now on several projects, as far as features go it should definitely have everything you need. DVDA can do most things you'd want, although it does have a couple odd glitches, and no "real" transition abilities like pro DVDs have (its 'transitions' simply cut to a different media file, which is too abrubt for my taste)

Looking back, I still miss the real-time performance of Edius, especially now that I work on the road half the time on a laptop, where I have less horsepower for the editing to use. I cannot do real-time Hi-Def all the time with Vegas, even with Connect-HD for intermediate files and even though the latest (7.0c) has even improved that noticably. Throw some cuts/fades and some filters on and Vegas shows frame rates between 5-15fps so I'm back to pre-rendering the important edits, to make sure.

I hope I don't sound like I'm bashing the sony suite, I use it, I *really* appreciate it's rich feature set and consistent interface. But it costs nothng to try Edius and then you can at least say you gave it a whirl.

And if you're set on Vegas after all is said and done, drop me an email - I might sell you my Vegas suite at a decent bargain as I'm still undecided myself.

Best of luck whatever you go with, in the end it's your creative juices that will make your stuff great.

Dip
 
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