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mino
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I'm getting the impression that the only way to preview out in vegas is to pass through your dv device. Is this correct? Pleeeaase say it's not so!!!
Gary_Kleiner
Carbonite Member
Re: vegas preview out
It's correct unless you have a monitor that has direct firewire input.
Gary
It's correct unless you have a monitor that has direct firewire input.
Gary
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mino
Guest
Re: vegas preview out
:'(
:'(
Barry_Green
Moderator
Re: vegas preview out
Right, Vegas can only preview out to firewire. So you need to have something, some sort of DV to analog device connected, whether that's the camera, a deck, or something like the Pyro DV->analog video converter...
Right, Vegas can only preview out to firewire. So you need to have something, some sort of DV to analog device connected, whether that's the camera, a deck, or something like the Pyro DV->analog video converter...
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mino
Guest
Re: vegas preview out
so can I at least put vegas on daul monitors and preview on # 2 huh, huh, can I? pleeeaaaase say I can. you just gotta say I can....Damn it say I can or.....you know I can you're just not gonna share... come on I can right?
so can I at least put vegas on daul monitors and preview on # 2 huh, huh, can I? pleeeaaaase say I can. you just gotta say I can....Damn it say I can or.....you know I can you're just not gonna share... come on I can right?
Gary_Kleiner
Carbonite Member
Re: vegas preview out
You could have your preview on a 2nd computer monitor, but you cannot depend on that for an accurate representation if your delivery format is out in the non-computer world.
Why don't you tell us what it is you were HOPING to do and why?
Gary
You could have your preview on a 2nd computer monitor, but you cannot depend on that for an accurate representation if your delivery format is out in the non-computer world.
Why don't you tell us what it is you were HOPING to do and why?
Gary
SafetyO
Well-known member
Re: vegas preview out
If it's any help, I use dual monitors. I have the timeline,and the following tabs (explorer, trimmer, transitions, video fx, and media generators), and mixer panel on the left screen. On the right screen, I have only the Media Pool and Video Preview windows.
The Video Preview window display is sized to as large as it will display and it's 720x480x32. The preview does lag a bit (depending on fx, track motion, number of tracks, etc.), and does not display all frames when set to Preview (full), Good (full) or Best (full). If I have to really preview a specific part, I render it to RAM or just render a quick .wmv. (wmv=weapons of mass video)
I'm using a P4, 2.52 GHz, 1 GB ram, project files on separte drive from system, WINXP SP2, ATI RADEON 9500, 128 MB, blah, blah, blah...
If it's any help, I use dual monitors. I have the timeline,and the following tabs (explorer, trimmer, transitions, video fx, and media generators), and mixer panel on the left screen. On the right screen, I have only the Media Pool and Video Preview windows.
The Video Preview window display is sized to as large as it will display and it's 720x480x32. The preview does lag a bit (depending on fx, track motion, number of tracks, etc.), and does not display all frames when set to Preview (full), Good (full) or Best (full). If I have to really preview a specific part, I render it to RAM or just render a quick .wmv. (wmv=weapons of mass video)
I'm using a P4, 2.52 GHz, 1 GB ram, project files on separte drive from system, WINXP SP2, ATI RADEON 9500, 128 MB, blah, blah, blah...
Re: vegas preview out
[quote author=mino link=board=Vegas;num=1101536088;start=0#4 date=11/27/04 at 01:58:58]so can I at least put vegas on daul monitors and preview on # 2 huh, huh, can I? pleeeaaaase say I can. you just gotta say I can....Damn it say I can or.....you know I can you're just not gonna share... come on I can right?[/quote]
I agree with Gary -- what is it you're hoping to accomplish?
Is it because you like what you see on the computer monitor -- the resolution, the color representation, etc. -- better than what you see on a TV?
If so, that's exactly the wrong reason to do what you're wanting to do. The point of previewing out on a TV (or NTSC monitor) is to see what it looks like on a TV. The color, the resolution, the CG -- it will all be different, and things which are possible on a computer monitor are not possible on a TV. You'll end up with colors inappropriate for a TV, text too fine to seen on a TV, etc..
If you're wanting to save the expense of an external monitor, I'd point you toward the Toshiba 14" flatscreen TV you can find at Best Buy for about $150. It's a favorite around these parts and popular in the industry as well.
But why don't you tell us what you're looking for?
[quote author=mino link=board=Vegas;num=1101536088;start=0#4 date=11/27/04 at 01:58:58]so can I at least put vegas on daul monitors and preview on # 2 huh, huh, can I? pleeeaaaase say I can. you just gotta say I can....Damn it say I can or.....you know I can you're just not gonna share... come on I can right?[/quote]
I agree with Gary -- what is it you're hoping to accomplish?
Is it because you like what you see on the computer monitor -- the resolution, the color representation, etc. -- better than what you see on a TV?
If so, that's exactly the wrong reason to do what you're wanting to do. The point of previewing out on a TV (or NTSC monitor) is to see what it looks like on a TV. The color, the resolution, the CG -- it will all be different, and things which are possible on a computer monitor are not possible on a TV. You'll end up with colors inappropriate for a TV, text too fine to seen on a TV, etc..
If you're wanting to save the expense of an external monitor, I'd point you toward the Toshiba 14" flatscreen TV you can find at Best Buy for about $150. It's a favorite around these parts and popular in the industry as well.
But why don't you tell us what you're looking for?
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mino
Guest
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Thanks all...I just want to be able to see a fairly large representation of my work. I use prem 6.5 and matrox rt 2500 now which allows me to preview out on my 20" TOSHIBA in real time. I have grown used to seeing clips I capture this way. In vegas I,m gonna have to put the DVX in line all the time which I don't wanna do. So my option is to preview on monitor # two ...Sucks cos as you say, it's not the way one want's to preview.
Thanks all...I just want to be able to see a fairly large representation of my work. I use prem 6.5 and matrox rt 2500 now which allows me to preview out on my 20" TOSHIBA in real time. I have grown used to seeing clips I capture this way. In vegas I,m gonna have to put the DVX in line all the time which I don't wanna do. So my option is to preview on monitor # two ...Sucks cos as you say, it's not the way one want's to preview.
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It won't hurt your DVX. It won't add hours to the heads or anything. It's the better way to go.
It won't hurt your DVX. It won't add hours to the heads or anything. It's the better way to go.
Barry_Green
Moderator
Re: vegas preview out
Even better still would be to get a cheap camera (*any* DV camera) for playback, which would free up your DVX. Or, the PYRO AV/Link (I think that's the name of it) which does firewire<->Analog conversions, including component I/O.
If you had a camera, deck, or Pyro connected to your computer, you could see full-screen previews on your TV.
Even better still would be to get a cheap camera (*any* DV camera) for playback, which would free up your DVX. Or, the PYRO AV/Link (I think that's the name of it) which does firewire<->Analog conversions, including component I/O.
If you had a camera, deck, or Pyro connected to your computer, you could see full-screen previews on your TV.
SafetyO
Well-known member
Re: vegas preview out
How about the Canopus ADVC110 ? Or actually, one of its cheaper cousins? Would this get the job done for previews?
http://www.canopus.us/US/products/ADVC110/pt_advc110.asp
How about the Canopus ADVC110 ? Or actually, one of its cheaper cousins? Would this get the job done for previews?
http://www.canopus.us/US/products/ADVC110/pt_advc110.asp
Re: vegas preview out
It would, but for the price, you're better off looking at a DV camera or even a deck.
It would, but for the price, you're better off looking at a DV camera or even a deck.
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mino
Guest
Re: vegas preview out
OK thanks for the ideas. One more question...If I use DVX for pass through, should I remove the tape? Is tape always engaged on video heads?
OK thanks for the ideas. One more question...If I use DVX for pass through, should I remove the tape? Is tape always engaged on video heads?
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You don't need the tape at all. Remove it.
The tape may be engaged depending on your camera settings. In stand-by mode, it isn't.
You don't need the tape at all. Remove it.
The tape may be engaged depending on your camera settings. In stand-by mode, it isn't.
awesomesean
Active member
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I think that is one thing that vegas lacks is preview out only through firewire. I love vegas and don't really like premiere(switched from 6.0 to vegas 4.0 now 5.0).
My workthrough is that I have a Canopus advc-100 converter that is connected to a vcr(in and out) and the vcr goes to my 36"flat screen for preview. This works out great for me and the converter was about $250.00. I also do vhs to dvd transfers and this setup works out great with no problems. You can also plug your dvx right in front of the advc-100
I think that is one thing that vegas lacks is preview out only through firewire. I love vegas and don't really like premiere(switched from 6.0 to vegas 4.0 now 5.0).
My workthrough is that I have a Canopus advc-100 converter that is connected to a vcr(in and out) and the vcr goes to my 36"flat screen for preview. This works out great for me and the converter was about $250.00. I also do vhs to dvd transfers and this setup works out great with no problems. You can also plug your dvx right in front of the advc-100
awesomesean
Active member
Re: vegas preview out
For me I liked the workflow of vegas better. I feel more creative with vegas also(I know it sounds weird)but I think it has something to do with the interface. For me it just works better. I have heard from other people that have premiere pro that there still alot of problems with it. Really they all do the same thing if you look at it with a broad view, I mean I still could produce a good wedding video with movie maker know what I mean. The switch was a little hard at first just because the workflow is different but it only took me a couple of weeks to get the hang of it and and I am still learning. dl the trial version and try it but you need to give it a chance. It looks hard at first but I thing once you learn the basics it is easier. The audio fades are incredible in vegas and premiere does not have a leg i think when it comes to the extra stuff vegas can do like total cd creation with tracks. Dvda2 needs a little more work but it works great too. I switched from encore and the only thing I miss is the integration with photoshop but thats ok(am I still typing
) Anyway I like vegas and the only move I plan on making in the future is to go to FCP but we all know what that means right....
For me I liked the workflow of vegas better. I feel more creative with vegas also(I know it sounds weird)but I think it has something to do with the interface. For me it just works better. I have heard from other people that have premiere pro that there still alot of problems with it. Really they all do the same thing if you look at it with a broad view, I mean I still could produce a good wedding video with movie maker know what I mean. The switch was a little hard at first just because the workflow is different but it only took me a couple of weeks to get the hang of it and and I am still learning. dl the trial version and try it but you need to give it a chance. It looks hard at first but I thing once you learn the basics it is easier. The audio fades are incredible in vegas and premiere does not have a leg i think when it comes to the extra stuff vegas can do like total cd creation with tracks. Dvda2 needs a little more work but it works great too. I switched from encore and the only thing I miss is the integration with photoshop but thats ok(am I still typing
) Anyway I like vegas and the only move I plan on making in the future is to go to FCP but we all know what that means right....