Vegas Doesnt seem to accept Midi Files into timeline ?? Any workaround ?

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plainman007

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Hi im trying to add a midi file to a projects sound track. Is there a way i can edit a small midi on the Vegas timeline. Also using Vegas can i cut and render audio to midi ? I think it doesnt accept this file type for edit nor is it listed among the render types. So wat im looking for you guys to tell me is if theres any workaround method. Any free applications out there that could cut portions of a midi file and render back to midi ? The prime purpose is to shorten a given midi file.
 
The problem is that MIDI is not an audio format. It is a digital data stream that sends messages to a MIDI device (Synth, sampler, keyboard, etc...). The best way to do this is to actually play the the file to the correct device(s) and then record it as an audio file.
 
Jaegersing > Ill try that out. Hmmmm yes im aware that midi has never been mentioned with Vegas. I was just posting a chance question should any of you have worked with midi before or something like that. The thing is i only need to cut out a portion of a midi.

Mark > I dont what you mean by playing out to a midi device, but not to worry. Its my fault since ive never worked and have no knowledge of Midis. It was just a hit or miss question. At least i have a clear answer now. :)
 
plainman007 said:
I was just posting a chance question should any of you have worked with midi before or something like that. The thing is i only need to cut out a portion of a midi.
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I work with MIDI all the time with Sony ACID. You could easily shorten a MIDI file with ACID and save the results as audio. This would be the easiest way but I realize that you're not going to purchase ACID just for this one time.

plainman007 said:
I dont what you mean by playing out to a midi device, but not to worry. Its my fault since ive never worked and have no knowledge of Midis.
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MIDI is not audio. It contains no sound data. It is a performance file. It contains information about what notes were hit when someone played a MIDI instrument. In order to use the file, you have to recreate the performance. That means you need an instrument to play (e.g., MIDI device). Fortunately most sound cards support MIDI instruments and so this gives users the "illusion" that the MIDI file contains audio. It does not.

Think of it this way. A MIDI file is essentially sheet music. You can't record sheet music. You can only record someone's performance of the sheet music. Programs like ACID contain virtual instruments that it uses to play the MIDI performance data. So you need a program that will play the MIDI file through the instruments in your sound card and then you must record the audio from your sound card. ACID makes this very easy to do but you can also do it for free.

Your best bet would be to:
  1. Turn off the sounds on your PC theme so that it doesn't beep (optional)
  2. Add a new Audio Track to Vegas
  3. ARM the Audio track to record the Stereo Mix (output) of your sound card
  4. Play the MIDI file with Windows Media Player while Vegas is recording
Vegas will record this as audio and you can chop it up any way you want in Vegas. It will probably sound cheap because the sound on your sound card are not going to be the best but it will give you audio to work with.

~jr
 
Johnny > How have you been. Wow thats an amazingly thought out workaround. I knew one of you geniuses had an idea for this. Ill try it and let you know how it goes. Thanks a ton. Any chance of putting the result back out as midi ? Or is that too much to ask for ? LOL.
 
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