URGENT - Canon 7D footage making Vegas crash

Deuceofspades

Deuceofspades

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Filmed footage with my Canon 7D for the first time last week-end.
Shot at 1920 X 1080 24 fps mode.
Some (bit not all) of the .mov files it produced are consistently making vegas crash. getting exception error. also got a red screen (inside video monitor window) and program no longer responding.

:kali:

I was able to view some of the clips OK but the rest is making everything crash. All clips were recorded at same setting, no changes of any kind.

I set Vegas project proprties at HD 1080-24p (1920x1080, 23.976 fps)

Am I doing something wrong or ??

Can anyone help?
 
Are you using the native .mov files right out of the camera? If yes, you are not alone. My experience (and many others) with Vegas and 7D files is that Vegas will only handle them in small quanitities then the problems you are describing occur.

Solution- Transcode the .mov files using Cineform Neoscene (free 7 day trial, then $129). http://www.cineform.com/neoscene/

Once converted to AVI files, they should drop right into your timeline, preview and render without issue.

Suggestion- prior to transcoding, create a new folder on your desktop (or whereever you want) name it TEMP AVI and have the converted files output to this folder (use the Prefs tab). Once your project is rendered you can delete the large TEMP AVI files and keep the smaller .mov files.

hope this helps,

Doug
 
michigan said:
Are you using the native .mov files right out of the camera? If yes, you are not alone. My experience (and many others) with Vegas and 7D files is that Vegas will only handle them in small quanitities then the problems you are describing occur.

Solution- Transcode the .mov files using Cineform Neoscene (free 7 day trial, then $129). http://www.cineform.com/neoscene/

Once converted to AVI files, they should drop right into your timeline, preview and render without issue.

Suggestion- prior to transcoding, create a new folder on your desktop (or whereever you want) name it TEMP AVI and have the converted files output to this folder (use the Prefs tab). Once your project is rendered you can delete the large TEMP AVI files and keep the smaller .mov files.

hope this helps,

Doug
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Thank you Doug for above, but I was wondering whether I could render the 7D cannon files instead for exemple to a .mov format or even use raylight (which I have) in some way. I don't like working with .avi files usually.

So has anyone tried another way to convert those Canon native files into something else?
 
Our new $45 Epic I product addresses the problem with Vegas and quicktime files. Epic is primarily intended to allow you to start editing immediately without any transcoding on underpowered hardware. By using Epic you also avoid the known limitations Vegas has with quicktime files. The Epic plugin currently works for Vegas 9.0. A Vegas 8.0 version is currently in development and a few weeks away. You can read more about it here:

http://dvfilm.com/epic/index.htm
 
What version of Vegas are you using? Have you adjusted the access to more than 2GB using CFF explorer? Basically download CFF Explorer suite (free) and open VegasX.exe with it (X being the version). Follow the instructions below and see if that helps it...

open the program
goto file\open
then find the file... in this case it would be Vegas.exe
On the left side you'll see "NT HEADER".... "DOS HEADER"... etc
Highlight "FILE HEADER" under "NT HEADER"
On the right side you'll see a chart and in the bottom right corner you will see "CLICK HERE"
Click on that and a check box menu system will open.
Scroll down the menu list until you see "app can handle > than 2gig address space" and check that.
Save the file and close.
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Everytime you update Vegas you'll need to do this again, as it writes over the executable.
 
Deuceofspades said:
Thank you Doug for above, but I was wondering whether I could render the 7D cannon files instead for exemple to a .mov format or even use raylight (which I have) in some way. I don't like working with .avi files usually.

So has anyone tried another way to convert those Canon native files into something else?
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I convert 7D stuff to Raylight AVI. But you'll want to do this before you edit -- or, if you've already done so, convert all the files and right-click/replace the 7D clips with the AVIs.
 
Deuceofspades said:
Thank you Doug for above, but I was wondering whether I could render the 7D cannon files instead for exemple to a .mov format or even use raylight (which I have) in some way. I don't like working with .avi files usually.

So has anyone tried another way to convert those Canon native files into something else?
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I believe, with mpeg streamclips, you can convert to several formats. http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-win.html
 
David Jimerson said:
I convert 7D stuff to Raylight AVI. But you'll want to do this before you edit -- or, if you've already done so, convert all the files and right-click/replace the 7D clips with the AVIs.
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Since I already own Raylight I am interested in above solution. Can you walk me through the steps David? Where do I go where do I click etc... how do I do the conversion?

I currently own DVFilm Raylight & Raylight MXFX 1.8.1 and explored both but didn't see any options to convert those .mov canon files into Raylight avi files. Do I need another raylight sofwtware maybe?
 
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Faith, I did color for our film last year in Vegas. It was shot on a 5D. I converted everything to DNxHD and did my work without issue.

Putting 7D files into 32bit Vegas is going to fail. Period. Convert the files to a more suitable format. Cineform, DNxHD, Raylight, MXF, something. But get it out of it's native format if you want to have any success at all.
 
PerroneFord said:
Faith, I did color for our film last year in Vegas. It was shot on a 5D. I converted everything to DNxHD and did my work without issue.

Putting 7D files into 32bit Vegas is going to fail. Period. Convert the files to a more suitable format. Cineform, DNxHD, Raylight, MXF, something. But get it out of it's native format if you want to have any success at all.
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hey Perrone :)

Ok I already know that I need to convert and agree with this approach, but what i really need right now is someone to explain to me HOW to do the conversion, because I am apparently not able to figure it out. For exemple I have no clue what DNXHD means or is. Nor how to use Raylight to create raylight avi files, so I guess THIS is the info I really really need at this point, so I can get going. :)

Anyone?

Please walk me through the process like I am a 2 year old LOL - Many thanks :)
 
Deuceofspades said:
Since I already own Raylight I am interested in above solution. Can you walk me through the steps David? Where do I go where do I click etc... how do I do the conversion?

I currently own DVFilm Raylight & Raylight MXFX 1.8.1 and explored both but didn't see any options to convert those .mov canon files into Raylight avi files. Do I need another raylight sofwtware maybe?
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Create a timeline which matches the footage. Put your clips on it, preferably in name order. Leave some space between them. Create a Region for each one (R).

Tools>Scripting>Batch Render. Choose the format you want (Raylight, DNxHD, etc). Choose the folder. Choose "render regions." Start the render.
 
alankley said:
Our new $45 Epic I product addresses the problem with Vegas and quicktime files. Epic is primarily intended to allow you to start editing immediately without any transcoding on underpowered hardware. By using Epic you also avoid the known limitations Vegas has with quicktime files. The Epic plugin currently works for Vegas 9.0. A Vegas 8.0 version is currently in development and a few weeks away. You can read more about it here:

http://dvfilm.com/epic/index.htm
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How would Epic work in a mixed codec timeline, say one that's made up mostly of AVC-I / DVCProHD footage through Raylight / Ultra?
 
PerroneFord said:
Putting 7D files into 32bit Vegas is going to fail. Period .
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I would disagree. That's what DVFilm Epic does, it replaces the standard quicktime plugin with a new plugin. Have you tried it?

With Epic you get real-time playback, but transcoding is totally eliminated. You drop the clips straight into the timeline. Also unlike regular proxy methods, there is no tedious swapping of files back and forth as you switch from editing to rendering, back to editing, etc. It's all handled, automatically, by the plugin.


Erik Olson said:
How would Epic work in a mixed codec timeline, say one that's made up mostly of AVC-I / DVCProHD footage through Raylight / Ultra?
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The Epic and Ultra plugins have been tested together and work together with no problems.
 
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