URGENT: Can the original P2 Store take 32 and 64GB Cards

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Gigabarone

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Hi I was just wondering if the original P2 store can take 32 and 64gb cards.
I remember seeing somewhere that it can't but nobody gave a final answer.
I have seen some for sale at very low prices and was wondering if this is because
it can't take the bigger cards. If it could I would be interested in using it for field offload
instead of having to worry about lugging a Laptop with me.

Thanks
 
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With a firmware update it can take a 32gb card, but only one; after one offload there won't be room for another.

It cannot accomodate a 64gb card. A 64gb card is bigger than the P2 store's drive.
 
Thanks Barry thought as much. Pity it cant take a bigger drive, then again I suppose thats why they are being sold so cheaply on ebay. Owners must be pretty pissed they cant upgrade the drives.
Thanks again.
 
2,500 is a bit pricey for me; l wonder why Panasonic don't produce one type of recorder for all formats.
Would prob pay this for a combination device but it seems the MSU-10 doesn't have SDI/ Input / Hdmi or recording of AVC Intra or CAM to SD cards.

After purchasing the HVX I was hoping to buy a second camera and build up my range of Panasonic equipment.
I will prob look at the 170 for a second camera or a smaller Panasonic camera.

I just checked out all Panasonic Recorders; so many different models and prices.

http://www.panasonic.com/business/provideo/p2-hd/workflow-tools.asp

The AG-HPG20 would be great if they made it with the removable SSD Drive and HDMI output to a monitor; plus the ability to record AVC Intra and CAM
to SD cards. USB 3 would be great too.

However at 5,500 it's still expensive

Unfortunately I can't afford to pay more money for separate field recorders that take only one type of media. As my main area is documentaries and live events I need something that is rugged and portable and I can use across the entire range of Panasonic cameras if needed.

Thanks
 
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Gigabarone said:
2,500 is a bit pricey for me; l wonder why Panasonic don't produce one type of recorder for all formats.
Would prob pay this for a combination device but it seems the MSU-10 doesn't have SDI/ Input / Hdmi or recording of AVC Intra or CAM to SD cards.
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The MSU10 doesn't have any sort of inputs or recording at all. It is a file copy device, not a recorder.
 
Thanks Barry didn't notice that

The AG-HPG20 would be great if they made it with the removable SSD Drive and HDMI output to a monitor; plus the ability to record AVC Intra and CAM
to SD cards. USB 3 would be great too.

However at 5,500 it's still expensive

Unfortunately I can't afford to pay more money for separate field recorders/ offloaders that take only one type of media. As my main area is documentaries and live events I need something that is rugged and portable and I can use across the entire range of Panasonic cameras if needed.


I like the Panasonic workflow; but there are so many different models with specific features it means you have to purchase several different pieces of equipment. This becomes less attractive to the smaller user who wishes to use different cameras for different projects.
I think the Red Epic and Scarlet approach seems like a good one, a modular system that can be used across a range of products. You pay more for different models but it is easier to move from one product to another, eg, if you buy a battery for the Red Scarlet you can use it on the Epic. They have the same power and recording system, even down to the rails, nuts and bolts.
This is a great incentive for a user to stay with a company and upgrade their system. Moving form one Panasonic product to another at the moment can be expensive.
 
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Gigabarone said:
The AG-HPG20 would be great if they made it with the removable SSD Drive and HDMI output to a monitor; plus the ability to record AVC Intra and CAM
to SD cards. USB 3 would be great too.
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The HPG20 doesn't have *any* drive in it. You can use any external drive you want. If you want an SSD, plug an SSD drive into it.

It doesn't have HDMI but it does have HD-SDI output. And it can record AVC-Intra and DVCPRO-HD, but it doesn't do AVCCAM. You can get the HMR10 (I think) to record AVCCAM and use HDMI.

I think the Red Epic and Scarlet approach seems like a good one, a modular system that can be used across a range of products. You pay more for different models but it is easier to move from one product to another, eg, if you buy a battery for the Red Scarlet you can use it on the Epic. They have the same power and recording system, even down to the rails and nuts and bolts.
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Except that you can't buy an Epic or a Scarlet. And even if you could, yes they're interchangeable for now, but for how long? The whole initial marketing slogan for the Red One was "obsolescence made obsolete", followed two years later by the whole Red One being made ... obsolete! They've announced that once the Epic is out, the Red One will be end-of-lined.

Many industries have gone "modular"; it only lasts as long as the current technology works with it. Sooner or later (and usually sooner) something'll come along that won't work with the existing system, and so you have to start all over again.

The whole film industry is largely "modular"; it's standardized around 35mm film, 19mm rails, cine-pitch focus gears etc. But the film industry is also very, very easy to adapt new products into, so if you want to shoot on an ancient Arri BL3 or on tomorrow's Alexa, all your lenses and support gear can typically be adapted. Modularity is nothing new to this industry, and if Red can truly pull it off, at affordable prices, more power to 'em.

You just have to look at what the cost of those modules are. $450 for a battery -- sure, it's "modular", but ... dude, it's $450. For a battery. It's not $69 like a DVXUser battery. Or $180 for an EVF cable. That's $180, for a cable. A two-foot cable. Or $250 for a "handle". Not a complete DSLR rig, like some folks are selling, but for a handle. I agree it's "modular", sure ... but I think people are thinking that "modular" means it'll reduce your overall system cost, and I'm pretty sure that that's not really how it's gonna work out. You can buy the Red "power station" system for $1450. That's two batteries and a charger. For professional equipment, that's a pretty good deal, but ... for low-cost low-budget guys, that's the cost of a t2i, lens, two batteries, filters, mattebox, and low-cost tripod, all together. Sure, the t2i isn't "modular" but ...

Well, anyway -- that's my rant on modular. I think modularity is great and I wish every manufacturer would support a common standard, so long as it doesn't prevent the ability for innovation. The P2 card could be said to be "modular" in that unlike Sony's system (HDV tape, XDCAM SD disc, XDCAM-HD disc, XDCAM-422 disc, SxS card, HDCAM tape, HDCAM-SR tape, etc) you can use one "modular" recording media in every one of their pro cameras, from the HVX200A on up to the HPX3700, to record anything from standard-def DV on up to AVC-Ultra. So, yeah, that's the same "modularity" concept there, just not advertised as such.
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