TJIsACoolGuy
Active member
Well, I have wanted to try the uprezzing procedure that Disjecta has kindly outlined for us a while back using photozoom pro. I never really got around to it after I read the post last October, but recently I have been playing with it. I use vegas primarily and know that many people have had troubles rendering out frames for this procedure. I have decided to share what I have learned from the tests I have recently done.
Use the free Frame-serve plugin (http://www.debugmode.com/frameserver/) to frameserve your files to virtual-dub (http://www.virtualdub.org/). This is not hard if you have never frameserved. Simply install the frameserve plugin, and simply render your selection like you always do but choose the debugmode frameserve avi instead. After selecting ok, and choosing where you want to save your file than leave it up and running. Now open the file you created in vdub and export an image sequence of .pngs. In my tests I have come to realize that you can not export tiffs using programs that claim to export tiffs from video files such as OSS Video Decompiler. When you frameserve from vegas, you can only output pictures that vegas will allow you to create. When I frameserve from vegas to a program (Such as OSS Video Decompiler) and export tiffs....it runs through the whole process as if it was actually creating them, but it does not. This is the reason for the use of .pngs - which are great because they are an uncompressed format (technically compressed, but lossless - they can be uncompressed with no loss). Creating the pngs in vdub is faster than using the image render script in vegas from vasst. That thing takes forever! Use V-dub to export an image sequence of pngs. Batch render the files in photozoom pro using the s-spline algorithm to uprez the pictures. Use the same sizes as outlined by Disjecta-
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Settings are the following:
New Size for letterboxed footage: 720 x 640 (use 720x618 if you want to keep the entire letterbox frame, even though it will be slightly out of aspect ratio)
or
New Size for already cropped footage (meaning footage shot in squeeze mode, with the anamorphic lens, or cropped from letterbox mode using another program): 720 x 480
Make sure*Maintain Aspect Ratio is deselected before you enter the dimensions.
Leave the resize method as S-Spline and settings as Generic (You can play with the settings and experiment for yourself later as you desire)
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Then save as tiffs and bring back in to vegas as an image sequence. (In the media pool import, choose the first picture of the bunch and check the mark on the bottom as "as image sequence") Interpret the footage at the correct frame rate and aspect ratio as the desired data. (Usually 23.976 and NTSC DV Widescreen for what I shoot) Note: I am also usually using a widescreen project file after the uprez. Basically use all the settings you currently use (pan/crop on the individual "event", project file settings, and event properties) until it looks how you want it to. Here is a link to the original instructions outlined by disjecta for use with any NLE. (http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=6844)
I have a question for everyone else, after rendering out video from the uprezzed frames and comparing them with the original, the contrast and color correction get thrown off. I know a lot of people would say to CC after uprezzing, but what about footage that was already CC? I have not played around with it any, but since everything is probably altered the same amount after being uprezzed, it seems like it would be easy to use the necessary filters to bring it back to how it was before the uprez. Than we could all share the needed settings in filters and have an easy shortcut to always bring the uprezzed video back to normal. Does this make sense to anyone? Anyway, the uprez is amazing in my opinion - one more question, if this works so well, would it make sense to try to uprez in photozoom to 1280 x 853 or something similiar (HD) and then bring it into vegas on a normal NTSC DV Widescreen timeline for output to DVD.....would this yield any benefit? Or export the frames originally from vegas from an HD timeline and then uprez them and bring them back to a DV timeline for output to DVD. Would this yield any better results than my original steps outlined above? I am just trying to figure out the method of achieving the highest quality uprez and I know that when you place DV footage in a vegas HD timeline and export the Video it looks really amazing to me... I am actually pretty surprised.... I am wondering how the vegas uprez to HD compares with a method of using photozoom. Any thoughts?
Use the free Frame-serve plugin (http://www.debugmode.com/frameserver/) to frameserve your files to virtual-dub (http://www.virtualdub.org/). This is not hard if you have never frameserved. Simply install the frameserve plugin, and simply render your selection like you always do but choose the debugmode frameserve avi instead. After selecting ok, and choosing where you want to save your file than leave it up and running. Now open the file you created in vdub and export an image sequence of .pngs. In my tests I have come to realize that you can not export tiffs using programs that claim to export tiffs from video files such as OSS Video Decompiler. When you frameserve from vegas, you can only output pictures that vegas will allow you to create. When I frameserve from vegas to a program (Such as OSS Video Decompiler) and export tiffs....it runs through the whole process as if it was actually creating them, but it does not. This is the reason for the use of .pngs - which are great because they are an uncompressed format (technically compressed, but lossless - they can be uncompressed with no loss). Creating the pngs in vdub is faster than using the image render script in vegas from vasst. That thing takes forever! Use V-dub to export an image sequence of pngs. Batch render the files in photozoom pro using the s-spline algorithm to uprez the pictures. Use the same sizes as outlined by Disjecta-
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Settings are the following:
New Size for letterboxed footage: 720 x 640 (use 720x618 if you want to keep the entire letterbox frame, even though it will be slightly out of aspect ratio)
or
New Size for already cropped footage (meaning footage shot in squeeze mode, with the anamorphic lens, or cropped from letterbox mode using another program): 720 x 480
Make sure*Maintain Aspect Ratio is deselected before you enter the dimensions.
Leave the resize method as S-Spline and settings as Generic (You can play with the settings and experiment for yourself later as you desire)
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Then save as tiffs and bring back in to vegas as an image sequence. (In the media pool import, choose the first picture of the bunch and check the mark on the bottom as "as image sequence") Interpret the footage at the correct frame rate and aspect ratio as the desired data. (Usually 23.976 and NTSC DV Widescreen for what I shoot) Note: I am also usually using a widescreen project file after the uprez. Basically use all the settings you currently use (pan/crop on the individual "event", project file settings, and event properties) until it looks how you want it to. Here is a link to the original instructions outlined by disjecta for use with any NLE. (http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=6844)
I have a question for everyone else, after rendering out video from the uprezzed frames and comparing them with the original, the contrast and color correction get thrown off. I know a lot of people would say to CC after uprezzing, but what about footage that was already CC? I have not played around with it any, but since everything is probably altered the same amount after being uprezzed, it seems like it would be easy to use the necessary filters to bring it back to how it was before the uprez. Than we could all share the needed settings in filters and have an easy shortcut to always bring the uprezzed video back to normal. Does this make sense to anyone? Anyway, the uprez is amazing in my opinion - one more question, if this works so well, would it make sense to try to uprez in photozoom to 1280 x 853 or something similiar (HD) and then bring it into vegas on a normal NTSC DV Widescreen timeline for output to DVD.....would this yield any benefit? Or export the frames originally from vegas from an HD timeline and then uprez them and bring them back to a DV timeline for output to DVD. Would this yield any better results than my original steps outlined above? I am just trying to figure out the method of achieving the highest quality uprez and I know that when you place DV footage in a vegas HD timeline and export the Video it looks really amazing to me... I am actually pretty surprised.... I am wondering how the vegas uprez to HD compares with a method of using photozoom. Any thoughts?
How silly of me.... I completely understand this....I guess I just never realized that it would be beneficial for users of SD cameras to create HD discs once they are available... But i'm seeing now that it would be plus - even for SD camera users. I guess we can still give out discs with HD data on it for people to play on computers...........