United 93

SilverWolf said:
yes it is plausible but the key word you used is "could". Yes it's possible that they "could" have had a bomb , but do we have any reports of anyone seeing the bomb?
I'm not saying whether they did or didn't but if no one said they saw the bomb then lets not show shots of the bomb in the movie. We can show them saying they had one because that is substantiated by evidence but lets not go off of conjecture and then try and state that this is fact. Now if the movie is "based" on actual events as oppose to being true events then it doesn't matter.
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If that's going to be your criterion (i.e., lacking any proof of any particular detail, then that cannot be included in the movie) there is precious little that CAN be in the movie. What you seem to propose is a strict documentary, not a drama based on a factual incident.
 
Now you're getting it. It's back to what dj200423 said about why people tend to take movies more for entertainment vs. books. I also don't see why this thread will be locked down. I'm not discussing politics or religion and if i am please mods send me a pm and let me know because it's not my intention
 
not be bring politics or emotions into this, but i find it odd that people posting on this subject are mainly NOT from New York. Although 9-11 was a national tragedy and a first in terms of terrorist attacks in the US (besides pearl harbor), i feel as if 9-11 mainly concerns New York. Personally i saw all of 9-11 from my school downtown. Why is it too soon for people who didn't experience it first hand or on a more personal level?


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i do agree that it should not be forgotten, but a hollywood rendition of a tragedy that alters facts is not a proper way to do so.

im sorry if i sound like i'm ranting but this is a sensitive subject matter.
 
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JimtheJib said:
not be bring politics or emotions into this, but i find it odd that people posting on this subject are mainly NOT from New York. Although 9-11 was a national tragedy and a first in terms of terrorist attacks in the US (besides pearl harbor), i feel as if 9-11 mainly concerns New York. Personally i saw all of 9-11 from my school downtown. Why is it too soon for people who didn't experience it first hand or on a more personal level?...
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Not for nothing, but that is one of the most pretentious trains of thought that I've come across in a long while. How could you possibly know who is vested personally in the attacks? How did you surmise that none of us had anyone close to us involved directly? I'm honestly not trying you attack you, but I think you may wanna rethink the post at large.
 
Yas I think that is also political discussion and shouldn't be posted.

Edit : the Post that I am referencing was removed by Yas Kassana
 
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not be bring politics or emotions into this, but i find it odd that people posting on this subject are mainly NOT from New York. Although 9-11 was a national tragedy and a first in terms of terrorist attacks in the US (besides pearl harbor), i feel as if 9-11 mainly concerns New York. Personally i saw all of 9-11 from my school downtown. Why is it too soon for people who didn't experience it first hand or on a more personal level?
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I was there too.

You could go even farther than your post and say it really only concerns the loved ones of the people who died there that day and no one else. But that would be as ridiculous as what you're saying.

It wasn't just an attack on new york. It was against us all.

And don't forget the pentagon attack. And United 93. 9-11 was about more than just the towers falling. The reason that sticks out is because everyone got to witness it on television.

As for this movie I don't know how to feel. I'll reserve judgement till i hear some impressions from people who've actually seen the film.
 
I watched the trailer last night, and it seemed like it might do the subject justice. I don't know how PC it is to release it so soon, but from what I saw, it portrayed the people on the flight as heroically trying to stop it from doing any real damage to other people.

I don't know.
 
I'm with you, Briceman.

I'm a NewYorker, born and raised and knew people who were affected by the tragedy. I was shaken for weeks after 9/11. I got no problem with this film or any film about 9/11. As long as they're truthful.

A film's a film.

It's been five years, they could've released this 10 years from now and there still would be people complaining because thats what people like to do for some reason. Stir up trouble.

And I'll also agree with machinist. I'll wait to pass judgement on it until I see it.
 
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Filmjunkie677 said:
...It's been five years, they could've released this 10 years from now and there still would be people complaining because thats what people like to do for some reason. Stir up trouble...
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Just so I understand...

Anyone who disagrees is doing so to stir up trouble? It is inconceivable that someone would do so because they felt strongly about the matter at hand, in other words?

And, hey, I don't take it personally...I'll be a trouble-stirrer-upper. Hell, I've been called worse.

I really don't want to go into detail, but I have a direct attachment to the victims on two fronts. That honestly is irrelevant to my passionate feelings...I would feel the same way even if this wasn't the case. For poo poo's sake, our country was attacked by cowardice scum.

My biggest problem with the film in the intention/motivation behind it. If it were released to raise awareness and to raise money for the memorials (or all the profits were given to some other related cause) I would be first on line at the box office. If, however, it were an attempt to ride a wave of emotion right to a profitable semi-blockbuster (which my gut tells me is the case with all 3 of the competing 9/11 films) then I have serious issues with it.

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...And I read that the producers are giving 10% of the profits to the memorial fund - if that is the majority of what they are spending on publicity, then I say they are getting off cheap at only 10% for publicity costs.
 
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Films based on actual events ...


Munich, Schindler's List, Gandhi, Black Hawk Down, We Were Soldier's, Saving Private Ryan (Omaha), Braveheart, Amistad, Titanic, Pearl Harbor, Thirteen Days, The Alamo, The Passion and on and on and on ...

Okay, okay, some more cheesy and not as serious as the others and some not the tragedy that 9/11 may be but the point is:

Bring it on. All we can hope is that they do it right and respect the material (Munich, We Were Soldiers, BHD) and not really screw it up (The Alamo, Pearl Harbor). I don't know what the timeframe is but trying to establish one on acceptable date allowed is futile.

I think this looks serious enough and without the 'Cop on the edge' Hollywood treatment and some Prima Donna superstar in the main role.

As far as showing homeboy with the bomb ? We have no idea the context of this shot and nor were any of us on the plane anyways. Artistic license always will be a tool in telling the story of true events and as long as it is plausible I think it is okay.

I feel as if 9-11 mainly concerns New York
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And I cannot think of the words to respond to such an asinine, self-absorbed, and ignorant comment. That ranks as one the single dumbest poo pooing thing I have ever hear someone say and you should be ashamed for not only saying it but thinking it. I'd suggest crawling out of your small little world and taking a look at the big picture.

If you find my reply to your statement offensive; good.
 
If it does the job of reminding the public of this event, that's enough for me. People have forgotten what happened already... life goes on for everyone like everything is fine and good, when only less than 5 years ago a tragedy of this magnitude happened.

I do understand the fact that you do not like them taking advantage of this subject to boost ticket sales. But, in reality, everyone does it. Regardless of what timely subject it is.
 
Filmjunkie677 said:
...And yes, that comment about 9/11 just concerning New York is absolutely horrendous and asine...
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Agreed.:thumbsup:

Filmjunkie677 said:
Callaghan... I didnt mean any disrespect to you and it was just a generalized statement. I didnt EVER mean it like that. I just didnt say it too well.
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Appriciated.:beer:
 
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