Uncompressed 4K from Dalsa

bgundu

bgundu

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My friend got to make a short film using the new Dalsa Digital camera. It shoots uncompressed 4K images. You can find out more about this camera here:

http://dalsa.com/dc/dc.asp


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There is also the Arriflex digital camera. 4K uncompressed has to have a sustained data rate north of 600Megabites/second. The camera probably costs more than $150K and the ancillary equipment you need to store and the terabytes of information that this camera produces will be more than $500K. So why aren't they shooting 35mm?
 
Despite the freakin awesome full frame sensor and the uncompressed output I really don't like the look of this camera :P. Is it just me or is this thing sort of ugly?
 
Looks like a computer with a lens attached...although 4K uncompressed is pretty cool.
 
You have to have lots of storage. My guess the yellow crates are the hard drives. Plus I think its only a rental for about $2.000 per day so a three day week equals $6.000.

But hopefully this is signs of the future.
 
wow ..the dynamic range of that cam is over 12 stops .. which is as good as or better than the leading film stocks. check out the monitor in the bottom right pic where you can see the guy inside and everything out the window with no gel is also well within the range of latitude that cam has.. the still cam taking the BTS pics couldnt even manage the inside of the room and the outside at the same time and its pics are blown out just getting close to the window..
 
iamloser said:
wow ..the dynamic range of that cam is over 12 stops .. which is as good as or better than the leading film stocks. check out the monitor in the bottom right pic where you can see the guy inside and everything out the window .
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Good eye! Yes were were blown away with the dynamic range. I was shooting these photos on my Nikon D70, and as you can see it's nowhere near what this Dalsa can do. It wasn't without it's fair share of glitches though. Lots of recording errors and overheating. In the end, he finished the film on 16mm.

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..yeah those big 4k machines are still infants and occasionally spit up all over themselves. once they grow up a little we can give them some more responsibility and onot have to worry about them throwing an unexpected tantrum. :happy:

i think that until the storage becomes more managable and mobile they should adopt a codec like the cineform one or similar and get rid of all the huge storage issues. i mean all in all, the difference in the end would be so negligable that it makes all that huge uncompressed storgee and workflow cost and hassle seem pretty overkill - extremist/purist and unessecary.
 
scharky said:
I wanna see someone running around with that thing on their shoulder:grin:.
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Actually, the director did end up doing that! We put a towel on his shoulder and then there were two other spotters to make sure it didn't fall. I'll find out if there were any photo of that.
 
ha ha... very interesting.. It is amazing we all get to experience this transition from Film to HD.. all these real alternates coming forth.. even if they are a little sketchy. We will be able to look back at 2005 down the road and laugh at how hard 4k was to work with and how expensive a 1000mps fibre storage cluster was.
 
Doesn't look that pretty but it shoots at 4k umcompressed! Dam!! I bet this holds up pretty well on the big screen. Is there anyway we can see some clips or maybe some screen grabs of these images? I think its a bit over kill when you have cameras that cost more than a house back in the 80's. $150 thou is just plain rediculious! Well just see in the future...
 
A bunch of my friends from class and some teachers all made a trek over to Dalsa to see the Origin Camera.

My "Cinematography" teacher is very much hard core film.. and even he admited that the image produced by the Dalsa camera was superior to the 35mm frame.

I was told they showed footage shot with both the Origin, and a 35mm camera.. and the Dalsa blew them away.. and from the looks of it.. in a few years 4K uncompressed will be the standard for Digital Film projects.

Interesting indeed.
 
BLUESPIDER said:
Doesn't look that pretty but it shoots at 4k umcompressed! Dam!! I bet this holds up pretty well on the big screen. Is there anyway we can see some clips or maybe some screen grabs of these images? I think its a bit over kill when you have cameras that cost more than a house back in the 80's. $150 thou is just plain rediculious! Well just see in the future...
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Well, it's not meant for shooting the kids...

Why is it ridiculous? Do you know how much it costs to store and edit 4K footage? If you are going to shoot Julia Roberts (in the good way, unfortunately), that costs about 50 Millions per film, why wouldn't you use a 150K Camera? Ridiculous are the new Star Wars Episodes, other than that, it's the industry, man...
 
Shaw said:
Now THAT is impressive Loki.

I can't even imagine what cinema will be like ten years from now.
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Well it will be dead because there will be nothing a 10 year old with Panasonic's latest xVX700 and a Powermac G14 won't do...

Or probably we'll see some remakes of Beverly Hills Cop, wich just proves alternative number one... :)

Kidding - Eddie Kicks Ass...
 
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