Brandon Rice
Distributed Producer
I'm watching the Director's Commentary right now... it's great stuff.
TITANIC - Now I understand why...
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karapetkov
Well-known member
Titanic is a great film, but I like LA Confidential better. It's a nearly flawless movie, in my book.
Less-cliche' characters and less hackneyed dialog.
But for about the 900th time
)), I don't care. I got what I wanted from the movie, even if the script wasn't great.
Brandon Rice
Distributed Producer
LOL... great quote from Cameron's DC.
"I didn't want to show the difference between the time periods, I wanted to show the similarities"
Great great point... and why the film resonated in a big way.
"I didn't want to show the difference between the time periods, I wanted to show the similarities"
Great great point... and why the film resonated in a big way.
Michael Anthony Horrigan
More Cowbell Pictures
I agree with this completely! Every word.
Two great films.
I just happen to like LA Confidential a little more. :thumbup:
Jason Ramsey
Admin
It's been a lonnnng time since I've seen this, but my lasting memories were that Leo seemed like he was from the 1990's in his style and delivery. And, I hated the fake cg people walking around on the ship....
It wasn't a bad movie....the 2nd half was much better than the 1st.
Those are my memories anyways.
Later,
Jason
It wasn't a bad movie....the 2nd half was much better than the 1st.
Those are my memories anyways.
Later,
Jason
Batutta
Major Contributor
Exactly the problem! Gale Anne Hurd has always derided Cameron for his "truck-driver" dialogue. His best scripts are the ones she helped him shape a bit (Terminator, Aliens).
Brandon Rice
Distributed Producer
Very interesting that the script was passed through 5 different dialog historians regarding the way they talked... you have to remember that even though the style of the victorian era was still there in 1912, the way they talked wasn't that way at all... they did their homework.
EDIT:
Watching it still... and amazing to know that the first time they kiss (the FLYING scene) was done on the first take without rehearsal... wow.
EDIT:
Watching it still... and amazing to know that the first time they kiss (the FLYING scene) was done on the first take without rehearsal... wow.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Fair enough. I can;t argue that but do enjoy his style
What if QT wrtoe it ? LMAO
I didnt know this; tks Brice
Brandon Rice
Distributed Producer
Yeah, if you haven't ever watched the Director's Commentary J.R. it's well worth it.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Im gonna do this
I have the SE and never took the time
The ALIENS one is great (the commentary)
I have the SE and never took the time
The ALIENS one is great (the commentary)
Brandon Rice
Distributed Producer
Cool yeah... I just went out and bought the 10th anniversay 2 disc version... I want a blu-ray though!
karapetkov
Well-known member
When I watch L.A. Confidential I am really humbled by the level of mastery these filmmakers show.
Script, direction, photography, acting, music, editing... top level achievements throughout.
dvxhutch
Well-known member
7 out of 80 ceremonies isn't saying much at all. Funnily enough, you didn't mention REAL critical awards, such as the New York Film Critics Circle, or the LA Film Critics Awards, etc, etc,. How did TITANIC fare there? One piddly production design award, whereas LA CONFIDENTIAL, a REAL movie, swept both awards ceremonies.
AMERICAN BEAUTY swept both the Oscars and the LA and NY film critics awards. That's because it's a GREAT movie. The Acadeny Awards are determined by politics and popular opinion, more so than just the quality of the films. eg. FORREST GUMP, SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE.
It's worth pointing out that unlike most blockbuster films, TITANIC didn't have a massive opening weekend, but just kept on keeping on for MONTHS with consistent B.O. takings. Research showed that the majority of the audience were teenage schoolgirls, who kept going back to have a good cry.
Which is what JR is doing now!:happy: :violent5:
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J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Real awards ?
Yeah, those Academy Awards .... They're kind of played out ....
What ?
The film has a laundry list of awards
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120338/awards
J.R. is what ? winking and flame throwing the computer ? Huh ?
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LA CONF and AMERICAN BEAUTY are awesome films. Not sure your point ?
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Titanic openined with $28,638,131 in 3 days ... That's 'not a good weekend ?
It had $88,425,009 in 2 weeks in 2700 theatres.
Get your facts straight.
I love AB and LAC and Titanic but your running smack thag isn't holding up ..
Dvader
Well-known member
I'd say all awards now have some amount of politics involved so trying to pull that card on the Oscars is pretty pointless, and I don't always agree with the Academy, who does right?
I think you're out on a limb to think that LAC is "REAL" movie and Titanic is not just because it won other awards along with the Oscars. I'm not too into Titanic but I love AM and LAC, I think everyone can agree they are all great films.
If you want to go into the real differences that may separate AM and LAC from Titanic I think you're better off using actual film analysis, but that will take more work and be more difficult. In my opinion to adequately address that issue you would need to write an essay.
Gohanto
Veteran
Just to bring another aspect of the script to light a lot of people don't notice, I highly suggest you check this out which covers a lot of themes the film has on very subtle levels...
http://www.angelfire.com/ga/wkb/beyondtime.html
I gained a lot of respect for the film after reading this and it's certainly interesting to read just as a filmmaker learning to put subtleties into films without slapping the audience across the face with them.
I'm certainly in the camp of loving this film and because no one else has seemed to mention it, James Cameron's DVD commentary is one of the best ever recorded from a filmmaker's POV. The purpose of certain shots, the challenges faced during production, ideas in the music, and other things.
And if any of you read Maddox, you'll appreciate this last bit...
"You realize that if 10 million people saw the movie once, each wasting 3 hours of their lives, that 30 million hours have been wasted, and that if each person lived an average of 70 years, 3,424 years, or 49 lives will have been wasted watching the Titanic. James Cameron has effectively murdered 49 people. (Not necessarily a reason to cry, but it is to a sap that saw Titanic in the first place)."
http://www.angelfire.com/ga/wkb/beyondtime.html
I gained a lot of respect for the film after reading this and it's certainly interesting to read just as a filmmaker learning to put subtleties into films without slapping the audience across the face with them.
I'm certainly in the camp of loving this film and because no one else has seemed to mention it, James Cameron's DVD commentary is one of the best ever recorded from a filmmaker's POV. The purpose of certain shots, the challenges faced during production, ideas in the music, and other things.
And if any of you read Maddox, you'll appreciate this last bit...
"You realize that if 10 million people saw the movie once, each wasting 3 hours of their lives, that 30 million hours have been wasted, and that if each person lived an average of 70 years, 3,424 years, or 49 lives will have been wasted watching the Titanic. James Cameron has effectively murdered 49 people. (Not necessarily a reason to cry, but it is to a sap that saw Titanic in the first place)."
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