Those who support writer's strike

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On the one hand, I appreciate the strike, because it has prevented Superman 2 from being made. However, if it starts messing with my TV shows...:kali:
 
Yeah, I was all in favor of the strike until I heard on the radio today that 24 is cancelled until the strike is resolved. :crybaby:
 
I very much support the rights of the WGA to go on strike. But I would also support the actions of any production that fired the lot of them, and replaced them with non-union writers who were willing to work for the offered pay.

Banding together to request better wages, benefits, etc is one thing. But employees that start making demands deserve what they get. An entire department that walks off the job, costing their employer insane amounts of money, and then threatens not to return to work until their demands are met is simply attempting extortion.

I don't negotiate with terrorists...
 
Welcome to the entertainment business. Collective bargaining is at the center of every below-the-line craft in the business and they all employ the same techniques.

It's been nearly twenty years since it came to this with WGA.

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TwistedLincoln said:
I very much support the rights of the WGA to go on strike. But I would also support the actions of any production that fired the lot of them, and replaced them with non-union writers who were willing to work for the offered pay.

Banding together to request better wages, benefits, etc is one thing. But employees that start making demands deserve what they get. An entire department that walks off the job, costing their employer insane amounts of money, and then threatens not to return to work until their demands are met is simply attempting extortion.
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This is one of those posts I really hope is a joke...
 
Reading about this strike I saw a stat that says the average WGA writer makes about 20,000 dollars a year. $20,000!!!! It is not humanly possible to live in Los Angeles on that amount of pay. Rent alone costs that much. The guy who works at Blockbuster probably makes more than that! I understand fighting for internet residuals, but who would want to be in a Union where the average yearly pay is 20,000 dollars anyway? Working in a coal mine is probably more lucrative.
 
Batutta said:
Reading about this strike I saw a stat that says the average WGA writer makes about 20,000 dollars a year. $20,000!!!! It is not humanly possible to live in Los Angeles on that amount of pay. Rent alone costs that much. The guy who works at Blockbuster probably makes more than that! I understand fighting for internet residuals, but who would want to be in a Union where the average yearly pay is 20,000 dollars anyway? Working in a coal mine is probably more lucrative.
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this one too...
 
I don't know who, but someone once said that an actor, writer or director can't really make a living in the industry, only a killing. You're either making insane amounts of money or next to nothing.
 
ugafan said:
okay, i just looked at an article. and it's $200,000 a year, not $20,000. big difference.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jDaQucypNznm7U0sIKCcufA-TcWQD8SODODO0
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That's what the studios say, and is probably what their top tier writers get. Ken Levine, who's been in the business since MASH, says--

"Producers would have you believe all writers make $200,000 a year. First of all, 5,000 of the 12,000 WGA members are not working at all. So their salary is considerably less. Secondly, the average writer makes $20,000 not $200,000."
 
ugafan said:
okay, i just looked at an article. and it's $200,000 a year, not $20,000. big difference.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jDaQucypNznm7U0sIKCcufA-TcWQD8SODODO0
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According the article that number came from the studios and networks so it probably skews high and focuses on "A list" writers that get consistent work on big TV shows and movies. That's pretty much like assuming everyone in SAG is a millionaire and everyone in the Editor's Guild gets paid like Michael Kahn or Walter Murch. Just because you can string together a relatively small amount of work to qualify to be in one of the guilds doesn't mean the flood gates are going to open and you'll tons of high paying gigs showing up and your door every morning.

More power to the guilds, IMO. Many times the studios and networks will do everything in the power legally (and probably somethings not legally) to not pay people so I think turn about is fair play. I mean, Sony tried to screw Stan Lee out of millions of dollars they owed him by claiming Spider-Man (the first one) never turned a profit. That's some seriously creative accounting...


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Batutta said:
I don't know who, but someone once said that an actor, writer or director can't really make a living in the industry, only a killing. You're either making insane amounts of money or next to nothing.
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That was Miles Miller, half of the writing team Miller and Gough, the people who bring us Smallville.
 
Batutta said:
That's what the studios say, and is probably what their top tier writers get. Ken Levine, who's been in the business since MASH, says--

"Producers would have you believe all writers make $200,000 a year. First of all, 5,000 of the 12,000 WGA members are not working at all. So their salary is considerably less. Secondly, the average writer makes $20,000 not $200,000."
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i don't buy it. why would anyone do it for only $20,000? that's a crap salary here in georgia, i can't imagine what it would be like trying to live in california off that. i imagine the truth of what people actually make is probably somewhere in the middle.
 
I support the WGA 100% and I think all of us as artist on this board should really help out and sign that petition(I did) and tell friends and family to sign it. Yeah T.V shows and stuff might get canceled and delayed, but in the long run alot more will suffer. I know this discussion can get heated but if you do the math it's pretty simple, Writers write they deserve any and some of all profits of what ever they write.

Pretty simple to me.
 
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