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This is a reply to a very old post, but I want to thank you.
Thank you.
I'm teaching myself sound design, and reviews like this are one of the only reliable sources of information on location equipment. I am only partway through this thread, but every time you explain why you're posting, I am the imaginary person on the other end of your reasoning.
"it seems that unless you maintain a voice for the underdogs, they'll be overlooked... usually in favor of a proven choice, and in this case a far more expensive one." My local music shop doesn't carry Rode. I have been researching shotguns, and this thread is how I first learned about the NTG-3.
"Rode is really coming of age in the video industry and I'm thrilled about it..." Yeah, the reputation I always heard wasn't for location sound. I didn't know. Thanks for taking the time to talk about it.
"because in case you hadn't noticed times are tough and [...] it makes me glad to see that very soon after Sennheiser did an across the board price-increase... Rode stepped up to the plate." I am unemployed, retraining myself to do what I love and I'm good at. I'm putting all my savings into it. I've listened to enough clips to understand why the Sennheiser mics are industry standards. But the MKH-60 is $1500.
I'd have to have the experience and the job to afford Sennheiser's pro offerings. I have been grateful for every high-end product that has neared my price range. I pay attention. I look at gear I wouldn't have. I'm on a lean budget, and that's exactly why I'm willing to pay more, to get the absolute best piece of gear I can afford. I'm looking at two mics from Rode, both of which are more expensive than I was initially prepared to spend, because they are obviously a caliber above my other options.
I'm not questioning the quality of Sennheiser's gear. I don't know anything about it, and probably won't for some time. And that's my point.
EDIT: Sorry, I keep forgetting about the K6. I looked at it while I was trying to figure out if I wanted a capsule system, which I decided against for unrelated reasons. I had never checked if they have a shotgun capsule, and sure enough they do. So thank you Sennheiser and I'm sorry if I said anything untoward.
"….one of the areas that frustrate people with a 416 happens to be a STRENGTH in the NTG-3... and that's the polar pattern" The tradeoffs the Rode makes are ones I am hunting for. I can afford one shotgun. If the coloration in the recording is the environment, I still have options. If the coloration is the mic, I'm screwed. I'm abstracting a bit, but that's my experience at the mixer. I find the ear can be remarkably forgiving of ambient noise. It's a nuisance, and often it has to be dealt with. But it was a part of the recording environment. But even very slight coloration from the signal path kills the illusion of natural sound for me. No matter how beautiful, I am listening to a recorded voice. I understand that “not sounding recorded” isn't always necessary. For me, at present, it is.
In my price range, there is the AT4073a. I have not used it, but from reviews I've learned to recognize it, and I don't like it. The polar pattern is hoarked and it's hotter than hell. It doesn't sound "in your face" to me, it sounds unnaturally amplified.
"but if I didn't have one... and I was in the market for a shotgun, I might like knowing that a particular mic could handle that job in a pinch."
Yes. On my budget, it's all pinching. I don't have the 5K+ to drop on-the-spot and wake up tomorrow with a functional variety of location mics. Some situations have cheaper solutions. And there are a lot of 'em. I'll be learning about most of them on one or two mics.
And should I want to use an RE50? I have very little recording experience, but all of it is with human speech, and I would do pretty much anything to avoid using a handheld dynamic. Shopping for gear, I'm going out of my way to give myself flexibility. Over and over, I find my local dealer doesn't carry the equipment I seek, doesn't know about it, it is not well advertised or reviewed often enough. In sum:
Without threads like this and posts like yours I do not find the best solutions for my needs. Thank you.
This is a reply to a very old post, but I want to thank you.
Thank you.
I'm teaching myself sound design, and reviews like this are one of the only reliable sources of information on location equipment. I am only partway through this thread, but every time you explain why you're posting, I am the imaginary person on the other end of your reasoning.
"it seems that unless you maintain a voice for the underdogs, they'll be overlooked... usually in favor of a proven choice, and in this case a far more expensive one." My local music shop doesn't carry Rode. I have been researching shotguns, and this thread is how I first learned about the NTG-3.
"Rode is really coming of age in the video industry and I'm thrilled about it..." Yeah, the reputation I always heard wasn't for location sound. I didn't know. Thanks for taking the time to talk about it.
"because in case you hadn't noticed times are tough and [...] it makes me glad to see that very soon after Sennheiser did an across the board price-increase... Rode stepped up to the plate." I am unemployed, retraining myself to do what I love and I'm good at. I'm putting all my savings into it. I've listened to enough clips to understand why the Sennheiser mics are industry standards. But the MKH-60 is $1500.
I'd have to have the experience and the job to afford Sennheiser's pro offerings. I have been grateful for every high-end product that has neared my price range. I pay attention. I look at gear I wouldn't have. I'm on a lean budget, and that's exactly why I'm willing to pay more, to get the absolute best piece of gear I can afford. I'm looking at two mics from Rode, both of which are more expensive than I was initially prepared to spend, because they are obviously a caliber above my other options.
I'm not questioning the quality of Sennheiser's gear. I don't know anything about it, and probably won't for some time. And that's my point.
EDIT: Sorry, I keep forgetting about the K6. I looked at it while I was trying to figure out if I wanted a capsule system, which I decided against for unrelated reasons. I had never checked if they have a shotgun capsule, and sure enough they do. So thank you Sennheiser and I'm sorry if I said anything untoward.
"….one of the areas that frustrate people with a 416 happens to be a STRENGTH in the NTG-3... and that's the polar pattern" The tradeoffs the Rode makes are ones I am hunting for. I can afford one shotgun. If the coloration in the recording is the environment, I still have options. If the coloration is the mic, I'm screwed. I'm abstracting a bit, but that's my experience at the mixer. I find the ear can be remarkably forgiving of ambient noise. It's a nuisance, and often it has to be dealt with. But it was a part of the recording environment. But even very slight coloration from the signal path kills the illusion of natural sound for me. No matter how beautiful, I am listening to a recorded voice. I understand that “not sounding recorded” isn't always necessary. For me, at present, it is.
In my price range, there is the AT4073a. I have not used it, but from reviews I've learned to recognize it, and I don't like it. The polar pattern is hoarked and it's hotter than hell. It doesn't sound "in your face" to me, it sounds unnaturally amplified.
"but if I didn't have one... and I was in the market for a shotgun, I might like knowing that a particular mic could handle that job in a pinch."
Yes. On my budget, it's all pinching. I don't have the 5K+ to drop on-the-spot and wake up tomorrow with a functional variety of location mics. Some situations have cheaper solutions. And there are a lot of 'em. I'll be learning about most of them on one or two mics.
And should I want to use an RE50? I have very little recording experience, but all of it is with human speech, and I would do pretty much anything to avoid using a handheld dynamic. Shopping for gear, I'm going out of my way to give myself flexibility. Over and over, I find my local dealer doesn't carry the equipment I seek, doesn't know about it, it is not well advertised or reviewed often enough. In sum:
Without threads like this and posts like yours I do not find the best solutions for my needs. Thank you.
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