GageFX
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Oh. I just realized you edited it this morning. I'm sure my response was to what you originally posted last night.
And who is this Alex character and why is he stealing my quotes? (joking. I get what happened)
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Bad example for an action film, IMO. Not necessarily for a fight film or martial arts film. So much action, be it car chases or fight scenes, and even random places, was sped up to make it look faster and more difficult. That's cheap, cheating, boring, and ridiculous. CG Neo fighting the 80,000 CG Agent Smiths in whatever bad sequal that was - ridiculous. Things done poorly = ridiculous to me.
I had no idea of the story. No idea what to expect. It shouldnt be that hard to through a decent stiry and decent storytelling into the repetitive fighting.
Ah, you misunderstood. "no big deal" as in "No big deal to ACCOMPLISH." I think it's a HUGE deal to make a good action or fight flic. Hence the preparation for my film.
Very visual. Hence, super hot chica kicking arse. But work that camera so you dont have to cut to a close up for a hit that you cant make look real any other way. There's cheesy crap, and there's interesting camera work. (I was going to say corny crap, but that hits a little too close to home after last night's dinner.)
As for the acrobatics, I have it in my film too. And the acrobatic fighter gets his ass whooped by a level headed fighter. Flipping is not fighting, and I'm interested in fighting. I realize there is a place for everything. Jaa fits in his niche. I just prefer something else. And, if you go back to the beginning, I say I enjoyed it - more so than all the Sonny Chiba movies I forced myself to sit through. And I really enjoyed and respected the performers in Red Trousers. They have their place. I just prefer something else. That isnt too hard to understand, is it? I'm not trying to convert anyone away from this type of action, I'm just giving my opinion on it. I have to assume that's okay.
Great conversation, Nathyn. I look forward to more. (Probably the least sarcastic line in this post.
-GageFX
And who is this Alex character and why is he stealing my quotes? (joking. I get what happened)
Jean Claude said:
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Nate said:
Bad example for an action film, IMO. Not necessarily for a fight film or martial arts film. So much action, be it car chases or fight scenes, and even random places, was sped up to make it look faster and more difficult. That's cheap, cheating, boring, and ridiculous. CG Neo fighting the 80,000 CG Agent Smiths in whatever bad sequal that was - ridiculous. Things done poorly = ridiculous to me.
John Edward said:
I had no idea of the story. No idea what to expect. It shouldnt be that hard to through a decent stiry and decent storytelling into the repetitive fighting.
Forrest said:
Ah, you misunderstood. "no big deal" as in "No big deal to ACCOMPLISH." I think it's a HUGE deal to make a good action or fight flic. Hence the preparation for my film.
Someone said:
Very visual. Hence, super hot chica kicking arse. But work that camera so you dont have to cut to a close up for a hit that you cant make look real any other way. There's cheesy crap, and there's interesting camera work. (I was going to say corny crap, but that hits a little too close to home after last night's dinner.)
Agreed. And that was the first thing I said to my friend when he complained of all the knees and elbows. I assumed he was talking about Protector and said "he's a Muay Thai kickboxer. that's his style." Then he mentioned, no, in Ong Bak, and that's when I thought - "Great, that's his style, but it gets old." And it did. But that's just my opinion. Fantastic if you gys like it, but it's the same reason myslef and the rest of the box office tired of Jackie Chan. More of the same. Sure he's jumping in and out of a ladder this film instead of a shopping cart, and I really enjoyed and respected Jackie's work, but as a film goer, it got boring.Nate said:
No. It was just a silly movie. Silly story, silly acting, silly writing, silly directing, and some kick ass fights mixed in with mostly silly repetitive fights. The thing is, you have no problem watching the same thing over and over. I dont like to. It doesnt make either one of us wrong, it's just what we like. Should be return to the "Jessica Biel's ass" debate?Mr. Incredulous said:
I understand this. I'm only talking for myself here. Why do people think I'm trying to represent the universe?Kung Fu Master said:
As for the acrobatics, I have it in my film too. And the acrobatic fighter gets his ass whooped by a level headed fighter. Flipping is not fighting, and I'm interested in fighting. I realize there is a place for everything. Jaa fits in his niche. I just prefer something else. And, if you go back to the beginning, I say I enjoyed it - more so than all the Sonny Chiba movies I forced myself to sit through. And I really enjoyed and respected the performers in Red Trousers. They have their place. I just prefer something else. That isnt too hard to understand, is it? I'm not trying to convert anyone away from this type of action, I'm just giving my opinion on it. I have to assume that's okay.
Great conversation, Nathyn. I look forward to more. (Probably the least sarcastic line in this post.
-GageFX
