The Netflix scam is out - This really REALLY pisses me off.

Plus it seems highly illegal to me... its very misleading when you join because you don't tell you if you are a certain type of renter we may choose to screw you...
 
overlandfilms said:
What have we learned?

Google = Pretty much evil...
Netflix = Evil also, but still more cuddly than...
Blockbuster = 100% Pure Hydrogenated Satan cloaked under the guise of something holy...


why is google evil?
 
the-lyons-den.com said:
it's just unfortunate they apparently treat their best customers the worst.

Well, herein lies the problem, I think.
A frequent customer is NOT the BEST customer for any business operating on the "all-you-can-eat" principle. The customer who consumes the LEAST is the BEST customer.
 
I'd heard that Amazon was going to get into the DVD rental by mail business. Does anyone know if this is still in the plans for them? I don't see anything on their web site.
 
steadicamsteel said:
Hey Dustino,

Have you actually set foot in your library? Just asking because believe it or not if your "local" library (that's if you know where it is) doesn't have a movie title you'd like to see. Chances are the network of other libraries in and around your area will have the title you requested and you can then book said film and watch for free. The library I'm a member of have a vast inventory of DVD's (including Ben Afleck Flicks but do draw the line on PORN) You'd be a very very old man if you started watching them back to back now and exausted the list. And another great thing about libraries is they also have a vast inventory of books...Yeh man over 2,000,000 of the things in one building. Where was I going wrong, spending all that money in Borders on books when I could have spent it in Blockbuster or Netflixs instead, Oh the irony........

These global giants deserve your dumb ass money if your too lazy to wonder on down to your local library and utilise their free services. It's people like you who don't help the situation. If more people showed a hint of interest in a free service like your local library then maybe more investment would be forthcoming from the powers at be and maybe, just maybe one day your local will have an inventory of over 100,000 DVD's.

Unlike yourself, I'll try to do two things 1) keep this civil, and 2) refrain from using the ridiculous tone of superiority that only the oppressively insecure assume.

True, people like myself who support Netflix (and even Blockbuster on rare occasions in my past) are complicitly supporting all of the inherent evils of a devastatingly heartless global corporate culture. But, uh, so am I by supporting Panasonic. And the manufacturer of my computer. And the manufacturer of the boots I'm wearing right now. I suppose you, sir, live in a tent in the wilderness gloriously innocent of all the world's evil. I suppose the local library you support in no way contributes to corporate or governmental abuses with your tax dollars. It doesn't support a publishing industry which I'm sure only makes books with paper from environmentally friendly logging companies and paper manufacturers. I'm sure the adhesive chemicals used in the binding process of those "books" (or whatever those things were you refered to) are only produced in factories upholding the most stringent standards of labor and safety.

I hate to even dignify the crass assumptions of someone expelling the hostile flatulence of their own self-loathing, but of course I advocate (and use) libraries. And your point that supporting one's library could help them compete with corporate services is a good one. (It seems, however, that the most beneficial support would be through either private donation or supporting candidates and/or referendums that funnelled tax dollars to libraries as opposed to simply checking out movies, but I'll grant you the point, anyway).

It's not the recommendation of libraries that I took issue with, it was how comfortable you seem to be calling others "dumb" (which you've done again here) that proves much more about yourself than those you're trying to criticize. Self-righteousness is never flattering and the truly righteous never need to prove their enlightenment.

Given that you're such a militant advocate of public services, perhaps you should see if your local Recreation Center offers yoga or tai chi classes - couldn't hurt...
 
Perhaps a really bad bit of poetry will steer this hate ship back on the course to love:

Lament of the Baby Bird

Mommy gave me one last worm,
And pushed me from the nest.
I flapped me widdle wings
As hard as I could,
And fell down on me chest.
I see the kitty coming now,
He's ready to digest.
So I'll see you in heaven, mommy,
I know you did your best.​
 
the-lyons-den.com said:
I agree the library is probably a good source for certain titles, but hardly everything under the sun. Once a library collection exists where I can sign out independent and foreign films then there won't be a need for services like Netflix, unfortunately that isn't the reality of the situation.
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I disagree. I have yet to find a video that I CANNOT get from the library system. I even find rare out of print stuff through interlibrary loan. Does either netflix or blockbuster carry Titticut Follies? I think not.

I can get a DVD for a couple of weeks and it costs me nada. You might have to be a little patient, but I rarely wait more than a few days.
 
stephenlnoe said:
Do you guys realize that the Public Library has a media section and all the movies and documentaries you can possibly watch for free?

Why pay a dime?? A library card is free....

Not when the library in your town is small enough that the newest releases are all VHS's from 2001.

I have blockbuster and i'm pretty happy with it.
 
Jim Brennan said:
I disagree. I have yet to find a video that I CANNOT get from the library system. I even find rare out of print stuff through interlibrary loan.

OK,

ask your library for "Ôdishon" (Audition) by Miike, "November" by Harrison, "Un Chien Andalou" by Buñuel, "el Topo" by Jodorowsky, and "Attack of the Beast Creatures" (or "Hell Island") by Stanley. Let us know how you do.
 
Josh_Boelter said:
I'd heard that Amazon was going to get into the DVD rental by mail business. Does anyone know if this is still in the plans for them? I don't see anything on their web site.

I believe that they already are in overseas markets, but I haven't heard anything about the US.

David Kuznicki
Production Manager, WGTE-TV30
 
the-lyons-den.com said:
OK,

ask your library for "Ôdishon" (Audition) by Miike, "November" by Harrison, "Un Chien Andalou" by Buñuel, "el Topo" by Jodorowsky, and "Attack of the Beast Creatures" (or "Hell Island") by Stanley. Let us know how you do.

Odishon - 13 copies, copies available today
November -aabout 40 copies, copies available today
Un Chien Andalou - 5 copies, copies available today
El Topo - 1 copy through interlibrary loan. Might take about a week to get.
Attack of the Beast Creatures/Hell Island 0 Copies, but I couldn't find that one on Amazon either under either title. Maybe there's a different title. Or, if you can give me the full name of the director I can try again. there are too many "Stanley"s to weed through.

Hows that for free?
 
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very cool, and these are all on dvd?! even "el Topo"?

im a bit surprised by the high volume for "november", best buy has already pulled it from its store shelves/isn't restocking it.

nice work.
 
I think El Topo was VHS. It was at some Polytechnic School Library

The first 3 were all available from the Denver Public Library. They have been spending a mad amount of money on DVDs They often overbuy new (or newer) films, then sell them off as interest fades. They have an impressive collection of foreign films. But the best thing about them in the Prospector system, which allows you access to stuff from just about any library system in the state. You pick up the item within a couple of days at whatever branch you choose. Denver only allows 1 week with norenewals on their DVDs, but 3 renewals on VHS. Arapahoe county (where I live) allows 3 renewals of DVDs.

Sometimes you have to wait awhile. I am number 124 in the queue for Grizzly man, but they have about 40 copies or so I think.

But they can even get you stuff from around the country. I got Titticut Follies from the University of Virginia. It would have been about 400 bucks to buy and I can't find it to rent anywhere.

My Tax Dollars at work.
 
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dustino said:
Unlike yourself, I'll try to do two things 1) keep this civil, and 2) refrain from using the ridiculous tone of superiority that only the oppressively insecure assume.

Thank goodness (you took the bait) there's someone else as righteous and of superiour mind as me in this thread. Although I do think your remarks (above) were a tad below the belt after stating you'd keep it civil. Even I didn't deserve that one, however I have a very thick skin and I'm always willing to turn a blind eye on others (less fortunate) who's first form of defence is to attack the true and free of mind.

dustino said:
True, people like myself who support Netflix (and even Blockbuster on rare occasions in my past) are complicitly supporting all of the inherent evils of a devastatingly heartless global corporate culture. But, uh, so am I by supporting Panasonic. And the manufacturer of my computer. And the manufacturer of the boots I'm wearing right now.

You've completely missed my point "SEE ORIGINAL THREAD TITLE". However I am planning world domination by means of passive resistance to anything, you sound like a stand up guy, are you in? MSN me at secretsquirrel@bite.me.co.uk

dustino said:
I suppose you, sir, live in a tent in the wilderness gloriously innocent of all the world's evil.

I don't live in a tent but do live in a beautiful pea green boat and have been known to live in the wilderness on an occasion with a cow and a spoon and yes "I am innocent of all the worlds evil". How very dare you suggest any different.

dustino said:
I suppose the local library you support in no way contributes to corporate or governmental abuses with your tax dollars. It doesn't support a publishing industry which I'm sure only makes books with paper from environmentally friendly logging companies and paper manufacturers. I'm sure the adhesive chemicals used in the binding process of those "books" (or whatever those things were you refered to) are only produced in factories upholding the most stringent standards of labor and safety.

As far as I am aware of no, my library doesn't. But again, I really do think you've got the wrong end of the stick here. Remember I'm not based in the USA so can't comment on your countries ethics, well I could but this is neither the time or place to do so and as such will refrain from embarising you in front of your fellow country men.

dustino said:
I hate to even dignify the crass assumptions of someone expelling the hostile flatulence of their own self-loathing, but of course I advocate (and use) libraries. And your point that supporting one's library could help them compete with corporate services is a good one. (It seems, however, that the most beneficial support would be through either private donation or supporting candidates and/or referendums that funnelled tax dollars to libraries as opposed to simply checking out movies, but I'll grant you the point, anyway).

Again, there is no need to insult the enlightened and at very long last your actually seeing there was a point to my posting. I have to completely disagree with you about private donations and supporting candidates/referendums etc....How can libraries compete in this day and age and get disengaged people using their FREE facilities. Answer by giving customers what they want (it's not all about art house films etc) and if that means its about making "the dukes of Hazzard, the movie" available for people then lets have it on the shelves, its a small step but at least its in the right direction.

dustino said:
It's not the recommendation of libraries that I took issue with, it was how comfortable you seem to be calling others "dumb" (which you've done again here) that proves much more about yourself than those you're trying to criticize. Self-righteousness is never flattering and the truly righteous never need to prove their enlightenment.

dumb, dumb, dumb. There I've done it again. I wanted to highlight that there are people on this thread bitching about how the big corporations are picking on the little guy. Stop bitching and do something about it. STOP paying them money for something that you can get for free. In my book thats classed as idiotic but thought "dumb" was a better observational word.

dustino said:
Given that you're such a militant advocate of public services, perhaps you should see if your local Recreation Center offers yoga or tai chi classes - couldn't hurt...

Shhhhh, I wouldn't say I was a militant, you gotta be careful about who's out there reading this stuff, Freedom of speech, Gwantanimo Bay et al. But I actually teach tai chi and as previously mentioned planning world domination by means of passive resistance to evrything. Peace.
 
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