Zak Forsman
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The Last Airbender - M. Night's latest
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Nektonic
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Processed. Every review says the 3D on this looks really bad and very dark. It seems that the 2D version is the one to stick to for this film.
Ackphhhht. Let's not even get started on the feminist angle on this...
Well...witness the replicants in Blade Runner. Or the bioroids in Appleseed... thinly veiled allegories for racism, and slavery...
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Yep. The whole point was that it was a satire. I don't think anyone walked into Tropic Thunder not knowing that RDJ was portraying a black character.
What do you mean? I was just pointing out that when you look at the character, it is actually debatable (much more so than Aang in The Last Airbender) that a character like this has to be Japanese in a live action version. Then you've got the factor of the anime being seen in the US where she is voiced by an American VO actress. So in a sense, a lot of the fans over here might view the character more as American than Japanese.
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Jawa Ex Machina
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Sigh.
Look. All I'm saying is an actor of one ethnicity playing a character of another ethnicity when there are tons of actors of said ethnicity that need the work is bad.
You can disagree with this if you want, and that's fine. But this is my opinion.
When it comes to Tropic Thunder, Downey's character is Australian who thinks he's african american. It's a spoof of what we're discussing here.
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Jawa Ex Machina
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my uncle used to eat apple seeds.
gave him bioroids so he couldn't go to the john for two weeks.
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True, but what I was referring to was more of the idea that some of (maybe a large portion of) humanity will have an outright fear of robots, especially ones that resemble human beings no matter what ethnicity said androids are modeled on.
Then there is the whole fear of AI debate that would factor into things. So its a different controversy, and of course one we haven't faced yet, or won't for some time.
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There goes the job market.
Seriously though, I think robotics might become the bane of humanity in the latter part of the 21st Century. Not in a terminator sense, but in the sense that the wealthy elite will fill such a large portion of the jobs with robots that there will be massive amounts of unemployed hobos (previously know as Joe_6_Packs) wandering around.
Also, with automated military drones, we could be seeing endless proxy wars around the globe.
Sure. The ability to drop bombs without endangering pilots is removal of one level of restraint.
As for the class-warfare angle...really, it's not much different from Ned Ludd's fight back in the nineteenth century. Providing labor-type jobs is not an end in and of itself: if the employer/owner can obtain better bottom lines with machinery, that is where they will go. There's little moral basis for insisting that a business cling to inefficient practices simply because those particular practices keep more workers employed.
As for the class-warfare angle...really, it's not much different from Ned Ludd's fight back in the nineteenth century. Providing labor-type jobs is not an end in and of itself: if the employer/owner can obtain better bottom lines with machinery, that is where they will go. There's little moral basis for insisting that a business cling to inefficient practices simply because those particular practices keep more workers employed.
Jim Brennan
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Is this where we start talking about hobophobia?
Nektonic
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I see your point, but at the same time, what are we to do? Leave everyone out to starve?
Of course, with advanced enough automated manufacturing processes, we could possibly move towards a post scarcity civilization in the next one to two hundred years. That'd be the more optimistic way of looking at the future. But will clinging to class and capitalistic ideals cause something like that to never reach fruition?
Ah, where's Star Trek's Federation when you need it?
Jawa Ex Machina
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No we're still on robophobia.
Nektonic
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But what happens when a robot becomes obsolete and is discarded?
We'll then have to worry about hobo-robo-phobes.
Jim Brennan
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No. This society grants people a great many rights (for my part I lean toward maximization of rights as far as practicable) which means that they likewise are subject to many responsibilities. One of which is to keep one's self competitive when it comes to business or employment. Of course it's sometimes practically necessary to assist people in continuing their educations and their training, to keep them competitive. So no, I don't suggest leaving anyone out to starve: I'm proposing that people be educated as required so they have useful skills to offer, and don't have to.
I think we're way, way past post-scarcity (into post-scarcity?) already. If anything there's a distorting effect from too much product jamming most of the pipelines, which brings problems in its train too.
I don't know. From my perspective Marxism was stillborn and any potential it might have had was buried with its creator. I think that capitalism and class are separable. In fact, I think that we have moved some distance in that direction already.
Watching us from holographically-camouflaged observation blinds, waiting for us to get our shi* together sufficient to be worth contacting.
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