Nathyn
Low Budget Ninja
You know, from a neutral perspective, insisting that a given character MUST retain the same ethnic identity no matter what is precisely as 'racist' as deciding that said character's ethnicity MUST be changed.
Example, when you're casting for Japanese characters, you get many different Asians ethnicities that apply. Fine. I understand things like that. And I don't think every person has to always be of the same ethnicity, but do you really think it's okay for whites to play Asians? Seriously. Or whites to play black. I know a black actress who was asked for by name from a production company, and her agency sent them over a book of white actresses to choose from. Do you understand? I don't know how to make it clearer to people who don't walk in the shoes.
Do you think it's alright make the heroes white and leave everyone else alone. Do you think it's okay to make a video game where a white man shoots up a black zombies in Africa, and under pressure a throw away black female is added as a hero. Do you get it? Am I being to harsh? You do understand black females are cast less than anyone in Hollywood so when roles for characters based on strong black women (Cleopatra aside) come up why give them to white women. Is that fair? It's like talking to a wall sometimes. People don't get it! Could no black actress play Fox? Really? Really? No Gabriel Union? No Vivica Fox? NO ONE? The comic writer wanted Halle Berry and made the character look like her. Action films typically make money if their good, but I guess a black woman can't curve a bullet.
I'm kind of with Max on this one. If the movie is good I don't think the general audience will care. Hardcore geeks maybe, but hardcore geeks can't give you a massive box office gross. The studios are playing it safe with their dollars and that's not the same as being racist. Being racist is saying, "I won't let a black/asian/hispanic play the lead in my film because I don't like those people and I think whites are superior." The studios are saying, "Why chance making less money on my film because of the racist a-holes out there." I'm not defending this but I don't think their decision comes out of any overt racist intent. And while there are several "ethnic" leads that can carry a film to a respectable gross, really there is only one right now who can reliably make a film a worldwide blockbuster -- Will Smith.
Not true. That's a lie Hollywood tells. Wesley Snipes talks about how he was treated when he went around the world promoting Blade. The people treated him no less than the star he was. His movie made money. The hard racist that are out there will not make a movie tank. It simply doesn't happen. Hollywood simply lies about these things and these are lies they've told for years.
By the way, general audiences do care. You'd be shocked at how many people know Catwoman is white or that Nick Fury used to be white in the comics (now he's black). These are not hardcore geeks, they're normal people who in their childhood used to read comics. I bet most of us here read comics at some point in time. These little paper magazines are sold for close to $5.00 now, and their market have suffered least in the recession. Believe me, people do care. Maybe not about movies like "Wanted" (with characters who are pretty new) but I don't want to see "Blade" as a white guy or Will Smith as Captain America (a Stan Lee suggestion), unless he's playing the one before Steve Rogers who was indeed black. Why does everything have to be white? It goes way beyond money. Marvel could've introduced a black Cap Am after Steve Rogers was supposed to have been killed. The only people who had stable super solider serum in their bodies were two black men, one lead the Young Avengers, but nope, they created a new white guy. So no I don't want to see Smith as Capt. Don't do me any favors. I don't need you to throw me a bone, simply create more good black characters. Airbender had great Ethinic characters. They were so good, they made them white. LOL.
The whole issue is difficult for me because I despise 'race' as a stupid, silly, obsolete concept that ignores everything we know about biology and genetics, which are disciplines rooted in the real world. There's one 'race,' and it's called the human race. All the obsessing over mere phenotypes is just childish.
You're right but if you knew how deep it goes in this the world alone, it would shock you and most of it is being pushed by the West via entertainment. Almost anything black or minorities do that gets popular is co-opted by white people and a corrupted version is sold to other all around the world. I just finished teaching a socialogy of Hip Hop class, this is why hip hop is dead and rap is what's left. I could tell you stories that would piss you off so bad in relation to how race and color are thought of. I know an Indian actress who told a friend of mine not to hire another Indian actress because she was "too dark". The woman in question had the skin tone of a tanned white person. This is not something I'm making up. I too hate the concept of race, but I also know it's used in a very specific way and it's used to hurt people, that's why I'm always on top of these things because America is using the media to indoctrinate people into a way of thinking. Airbender is just one example.
-Nate
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