The HVX200 and the HVR-V1U

Im wondering what about the Canon H1... I know its interlaced, but the 'frame' mode seems to be pretty legit. and that you can switch out lenses. What types of lenses can you use and where do you get them? Are they lenses you can buy from Canon? I mean seems to me that you could get what we've all been wanting with that setup.

am i wrong?

I now use an FX1 with a L35A. I would much rather have the H1 now, and use the Frame mode and have the ability to switch out lenses instead of use the adapter. Plus XLR inputs, which I dont have wtih the FX1.

I mean for me it looks like the HVX or the H1 would be the choice. But Im stuck. since the HVX shoots real progressive mode and has varialbe frame rates at 720, but you're stuck with one lens. So then I would want to go with the Canon since , to me, lenses are very important. BUT then you are working with HDV.... such a decision...
 
Yea the free choise is really giving people headeche.

It was easier on the old DVX100 days. Only one progressive camera.


Even if you switch lenses on H1 its still a 1/3 sensor and a 35mm lens will only work as a zoom basicly. The depth of field would be the same.


But the choise is really easy for you. DVCPROHD, Variable frame rates and uncompressed audio against HDV, More lense options and shoulder mount.

You also have the A1 that dont have changable lenses and dont have DVCPROHD. That way you dont have to choose between the 2.

;)
 
MovieSwede said:
Yea the free choise is really giving people headeche.

It was easier on the old DVX100 days. Only one progressive camera.


Even if you switch lenses on H1 its still a 1/3 sensor and a 35mm lens will only work as a zoom basicly. The depth of field would be the same.


But the choise is really easy for you. DVCPROHD, Variable frame rates and uncompressed audio against HDV, More lense options and shoulder mount.

You also have the A1 that dont have changable lenses and dont have DVCPROHD. That way you dont have to choose between the 2.

;)
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Yeah, you really can't go wrong with the HVX. But Im also very impressed with the H1 footage. the A1 is basically like my fx1 so I wouldnt be getting that.
 
i never understood why people got jazzed that the XL$%^ camera, had interchangeable lenses. That just means you have to spend more money to get a fully functional camera. Either the Wide angle isnt wide enoug or the telephoto isnt telephoto enough.

I like the HVX's Really wide wide angle. Sure sometimes i wish it had more Telephoto reach, i can live without a telescope attached to the camera permanently.
 
TimurCivan said:
i never understood why people got jazzed that the XL$%^ camera, had interchangeable lenses. That just means you have to spend more money to get a fully functional camera. Either the Wide angle isnt wide enoug or the telephoto isnt telephoto enough.

I like the HVX's Really wide wide angle. Sure sometimes i wish it had more Telephoto reach, i can live without a telescope attached to the camera permanently.
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Yeah, I understand that. and me too. I was just jazzed cuz i thought you could put all kinds of lenses on there, meaning, no need for an adapter. like those prime lenses. I was thinking then, a useable HDV format, a nice 24F mode, good audio ins, etc...

but if thats not the case.
 
Actually I could think of 3 cams in my arsenal.

HVX200
XH-A1
XL-H1

But putting a 35mm lens will not me a miracle solution for the H1. On the other hand the H1 can produce faboulus looking images with its standard lens. And so can the A1.
 
yeah, understandable and true. I was just looking to see if there was a cam out there that can use interchangeable prime lenses that was in the 4-8K $ range. I've never heard of one so far.

I believe they use a GY-HD110U for the show '24'. so they must use a lens adapter as well.. right? I guess the only option as of now, is to actually make the leap to rip apart a cam and mod it to work that way.
 
The JVC is the only interchangeable-lens HD camera in that price bracket. From what I understand they used it for some background plates in "24"; they'd been using the Sony Z1 for Season 5 for the background plates (projected on screens for their in-car shots) and switched to the JVC. I don't know if they're using a lens adapter with the JVC for those background plates; doesn't really seem necessary.

"24" is shot on 35mm film cameras, so no lens adapter necessary for those obviously.
 
I tried some quick test today with my DVX100ap, a V1 and the Z1 and I found that you could crank the gain much more than I expected without as much noise as I was seeing on the DVX or the Z1. Guys I've spoke to claim that they've shot with 9bd gain in and watched it back on High res monitors and thought that the pictures were acceptable. I'll have to do some more tests to confirm this but I've read about this before. I think the CMOS chips can be pushed harder electronically for some reason. I think I'll have to see what other side effects there are.

Also it reminded me how terrible the 16:9 pictures are on the DVX 100!
 
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