The Draft

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lol, funny enough it is now a requirement for all highschool students in Ontario to take a civics class. It's only half a semester shorter than other classes but still required. Every student graduating the system should know a little about how it works.

My first highschool year was the first one to actually implement this requirement.
 
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[quote author=Woodson link=board=Offtopic;num=1095907871;start=0#14 date=09/22/04 at 23:45:28]
VOTE FOR BUSH IN 2004, BE DRAFTED IN 2005!![/quote]

Umm . . . if you look at the names of the sponsors of that bill that TC posted the link to, you'll notice they're all DEMOCRATS headed by Charlie Rangell . . . and the reason they introduced the bill was not really to reinstate the draft (which the Bush Administration has repeatedly stated opposition to, thank you very much) but to make some inane point about race, class, and privilege and "representation" in the armed forces.

And, the Selective Service has been in place and operating since World War II.
 
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Ouch David strikes again

But in all seriousness I really doubt they will draft (unless we get in real trouble). It's hard enough for a mother to lose her son, but her daughter. It would take a lot to get the Senate to pass a draft...

A lot....

That's my opinion anyway, but what do I know...
 
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Great point Jimerson. Guys, just because they revamp or step up the selective service, has nothing to do with actually starting a draft. It's all about precaution and preperation.
 
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[quote author=THiNSPiRiT link=board=Offtopic;num=1095907871;start=15#18 date=09/23/04 at 00:30:16]The political party with the most seats in the house of commons (most representatives elected) elects a Prime Minister. This Prime Minister is the figurehead of the country and speaks on behalf of it as the head of the country.[/quote]

Not quite true but close. Only the Governor General can speak as the head of the country, but traditionally the PM does that on GG's behalf...

...There is no one individual who makes decisions. The decisions are made by a group of individuals and then voted upon.
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Except if the Prime Minister is Jean Chretien. :P

Mix all of these together and you end up with a pretty balanced government that fights over laws and usually the Canadians get what they want because they vote for a politcal philosophy not on an individual although their representive should be an individual they believe will represent them properly in government.
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Oh how nice that would be if only it were true...

THiNSPiRiT, you mentioned your high school civic classes... That would make you about 19? I think it was the same with my son (forgive me if I am ignorant about the previous curriculum, also you may be from another province).

I found that my son, at the age of fifteen, knew more about Canadian system of government during the 2000 election than most adult Canadians I spoke to. Back then, he also seemed to care. Strong case for lowering the voting age...

Jerry

P.S. Does this qualify as a 'Political Thread'?
 
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lol.. political thread.. i guess that when talking about canadian politics its not as volatile.. ;D

i dotn know though.. maybe Im wrong.. well see....
 
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I think he is too decent to be a Prime Minister. I think that's what will eventually kill his government - he won't get things done that he promised (like clean up the corruption). Steve Harper and Jack Layton can't wait to defeat this government (despite what they say publicly). And the BQ guy (how do you spell his name?) is just waiting to call another referendum, IMO.

But I don't have a crystal ball, so it may all turn out differently....

The health care deal from last week will mean higher taxes - maybe not this year, but in the near future. I am one of them baby-boomers, but frankly, I don't see why all the fuss about health care. I think public education is much more important than that - you know, it's the young generation that need the support, us old farts have had enough opportunities to take care of ourselves. Another example of how the voting system is rigged in favor of the old generation. Add to it irrelevant election debate, and you wonder why young people don't bother to vote?

All I know is Paul Martin is too good for the Liberals. One thing is sure, though: He won't institute the draft. :)

I've got an idea - we can discuss politics as long as it's Canadian!
 
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What I mean - most of the time it's so boring that nobody really cares, hence safe to discuss.

I was joking, of course. :D
 
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Speed limit? What's a speed limit? Did I miss something? ???

We may have the 100km/h but who cares? Take the 401 across Toronto and I swear the only people who drive below 130 are grandmas and the Americans. I guess dividing by 1.608 is too difficult for them, se they round it, and 100K becomes 50mph. Then they drive ten over limit just to be on the safe side of the law, and refuse to get out of our way ;D
 
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Who wants a speeding ticket in another country? Besides, we’ve all heard of your dread Canadian jails . . . ;)
 
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Back on the topic of the U.S. draft...

I am 22. I could very well be drafted at my age.

With that said, if they reinstate the draft, and I was drafted I would gladly go. I HATE routine, I would never voluntarily register to be in the army, HOWEVER if I was drafted I would go with no complaints whatsoever.

We live in this wonderful country because people jumped onboard with our forefathers and faught. We are incredibly lucky to live in this country. I have grown up enjoying all the benefits of peace and democracy, and I believe it supporting our leadership 100% as long as the U.S. is a democracy.

We elected our leaders! Let's stand by them and their decisions!
 
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[quote author=Oppressor_LOB link=board=Offtopic;num=1095907871;start=30#34 date=09/23/04 at 13:21:26]have fun and when you come back in your nice new goverment issued wheelchair we will through you a parade.[/quote]

Why don't you show some respect for the man. I admit I'm not that adamant about willing to go, but I think that comment isn't appropriate. He believes in his country and I think you should show some respect. I had an uncle who was wounded in war so that really pissed me off...
 
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didnt mean to offend, my grandfather was on the Gambiere bay when it was sunk. i guess it came across differently than i had said it in my mind.
 
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I say get back to Canadian politics.

Jean Chretien made it seem like he was completely in charge, but he really wasn't. He did a lot of good for Canada. The government has made quite the savings by having an effective economy balanced with good public services. Canadians haven't completely lost their services but taxes aren't so high that the country isn't making money. People simply voted along Chretien's lines because they believed in him as a part of their party. When it comes to vital decisions such as whether gay marriages should exist then people in parties are generally given free reign to vote as they like without consequences. This being said, liberals generally support that over conservatives so a liberal government is more likely to have something like that pass.

I am in fact 19 living in Ontario.

Canadians do vote for a political philosophy. In a minority government this is even more evident and far less of a sure thing whether the government will simply take issues and dominate the house. Everyone else can vote on having a election if they don't like it. Now the liberal party needs to appease parties like the NDP in order to get bills passed. I think that is the most ideal government. The liberals still have good economic sense and the NDPs keep our services. This means that the liberals will have a slight slide to the left in order to keep the NDP happy and the NDP won't ruin our economy.

I think healthcare is extremely important. The conference with the Premieres about healthcare was very informative. Ideas like increased homecare will cut budgets and still provide people witht he care they need. A national drugplan is another thing that will also be implemented to save costs.

The problem with a public run healthcare system is that new technologies and drugs and methods of healthcare come out that increase the budget. Putting more money won't fix it, they need to revamp the system to save money. I am extremely grateful for the Canadian healthcare system as I've been treated for cancer. In Canada my treatment was covered fully by the government. If i had to pay for it myself it would have cost $150000. Without this care I would have died, now instead i've been considered cured. This all occurred too without my family being ruined financially. Healthcare is as important as education. Teachers complain far too much about their jobs in Canada and about the education system. It's far better than people let on. Students simply need to be encouraged to participate in it more. The arts are still supported a great deal at select schools moreso than science or math. The arts will be supported if they actually produce.

Problem with it is that teachers at most schools don't take art seriously when they teach it and so not the greatest work is produced. This makes it seem like art is a waste of time. Schools like the one i went to produce amazing work seen by those who give funding. Impress them and they'll give you all the funding you need... they just need to know it's worth it.
 
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