puredrifting
Major Contributor
Hi all:
I have an upcoming project where we will need to shoot Hawaiian Outrigger Boats from a chase boat. I have shot on the ocean, as a matter of fact, I shot from a large ferry boat off the coast of Brazil a few weeks ago but this will be entirely different because I was shooting from a 120' long ferry boat and we were mainly just shooting b-roll of whatever we encountered out on the sea. For this shoot, we need to follow and shoot paddlers. Their boats are about twenty feet long and contain five paddlers per boat. They ride fairly low in the water and they do move at a decent clip for a hand paddled boat. We need to be able to see faces, identify specific paddlers so that means relatively long lens. We will be shooting from small power boats and as we all know, the ocean is completely unpredictable as far as how calm or rough it will be. We will also be covering the team with Go Pros mounted on the outrigger boat and with drones but the hero shots really need to look good and be shot with a real camera.
If the ocean is calm, tripod and EOS 70-20 2.8 IS II on the C300 MKII works well with the camera on tripod and tripod on open deck. But if there are larger swells or chop, how is this done? Steadicam? Gimbal? Ronin 2 mounted on the deck? What if we are farther away and need to switch to the 100-400 IS II 4.5-5.6? The good news is that although the boats are moving, they are not speed boats so it is possible with coordination between chase boat pilot and camera op to keep them in frame and angle for best light. Anyone have experience in shooting boat to boat action with real cameras for real films or TV? Gyros? Better to just take a big drone out and try to capture all of that footage with the drone rather than with a real camera? The nice thing about shooting from the chase boat is that we can use a nice camera with a long lens and there are not nearly as many safety and logistical issues as trying to take a bigger, pro level drone out on the ocean. The drawback is that we don't want so much of the boat bound footage to be shaking around too much or for the camera op to be constantly fighting the ocean to obtain good shots.
Advice? This is for a pitch so we have almost no budget for this round. The hope is that we can obtain sponsorships and funding and shoot this with big boy toys, a more sophisticated gimbal iso package but that just sounds expensive saying it.
I have an upcoming project where we will need to shoot Hawaiian Outrigger Boats from a chase boat. I have shot on the ocean, as a matter of fact, I shot from a large ferry boat off the coast of Brazil a few weeks ago but this will be entirely different because I was shooting from a 120' long ferry boat and we were mainly just shooting b-roll of whatever we encountered out on the sea. For this shoot, we need to follow and shoot paddlers. Their boats are about twenty feet long and contain five paddlers per boat. They ride fairly low in the water and they do move at a decent clip for a hand paddled boat. We need to be able to see faces, identify specific paddlers so that means relatively long lens. We will be shooting from small power boats and as we all know, the ocean is completely unpredictable as far as how calm or rough it will be. We will also be covering the team with Go Pros mounted on the outrigger boat and with drones but the hero shots really need to look good and be shot with a real camera.
If the ocean is calm, tripod and EOS 70-20 2.8 IS II on the C300 MKII works well with the camera on tripod and tripod on open deck. But if there are larger swells or chop, how is this done? Steadicam? Gimbal? Ronin 2 mounted on the deck? What if we are farther away and need to switch to the 100-400 IS II 4.5-5.6? The good news is that although the boats are moving, they are not speed boats so it is possible with coordination between chase boat pilot and camera op to keep them in frame and angle for best light. Anyone have experience in shooting boat to boat action with real cameras for real films or TV? Gyros? Better to just take a big drone out and try to capture all of that footage with the drone rather than with a real camera? The nice thing about shooting from the chase boat is that we can use a nice camera with a long lens and there are not nearly as many safety and logistical issues as trying to take a bigger, pro level drone out on the ocean. The drawback is that we don't want so much of the boat bound footage to be shaking around too much or for the camera op to be constantly fighting the ocean to obtain good shots.
Advice? This is for a pitch so we have almost no budget for this round. The hope is that we can obtain sponsorships and funding and shoot this with big boy toys, a more sophisticated gimbal iso package but that just sounds expensive saying it.
