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yia

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hi, i am a fcp user....but i'm not satisfy with fcp....because I can't use different framerate on the same timeline (barry said in other thread)... he is so right..... and using cinama tool is a headach to deal with.....I thinking about switching to vegas...but I have a few questions like to know about vegas.....

1)..in latest verion of vegas can you put diff frame rate on timeline or is there away to manipulate with frame rate so that can be put in same timeline....

2)..does vegas integrated with after effect or is there a way to enteract with ae

3... tell me adv and disav about vegas

thanks
yia
 
Vegas can mix any framerate, any resolution, any video format, any video standard, anything all on the same timeline. So can EDIUS Broadcast.

FCP may actually be able to do it in the new Final Cut Pro 6.

Vegas has no useful integration with After Effects at all; you pretty much have to render out an .AVI file from Vegas, then import that into After Effects. Vegas has some limited compositing capabilities built into it so you may not need AE as much as you might think for simple tasks, but for anything complex then yeah, you want AE, and Vegas doesn't integrate. But then again, Premiere Pro is about the only one that really integrates well with AE.

Advantages for Vegas are speed, simplicity, fantastic audio, and comprehensive all-in-one support. It's kind of like a whole production suite all in the one application.

Disadvantages for Vegas are that pretty much no professional production house uses it, so if you are learning an editor to get a job, Vegas is nowhere near as prevalent as FCP or Avid. Another disadvantage is that it doesn't seem to be nearly as aggressive in supporting other manufacturers' formats anymore; if you use Sony cameras and other devices (such as a PSP) then Vegas is the best choice; if you use something other than Sony cameras then you may find that Vegas isn't necessarily the multiple-format support-anything tool that it once was.
 
thanks barry

i'm looking for a editing software that can do smooth slow motion as well as fast motion by using different frame rate( 60i to 24pa or 24pa to 60i)....But as the same time, can also maniputate framerate,, for example changing these frame rate 60i, 30i,30p, 24p 24pa into 23. 97 timeline or 29.97 timeline.....

thanks again
yia
 
Also, Cineform has a plugins for Vegas...specifically NEO HD...which allows you to edit in 10bit 4:2:2 space at full 1920 instead of 1440.

Not sure about good Vegas is in:

- Exporting to different formats is; (i.e., Flash, WMV, QT, iPods, etc...) or how good the encoder is regarding quality and how fast it is.

- DVD authoring

- Realtime editing

- Titling

But overall, its seems like yet another cool production tool.
 
Vegas integrates perfectly with it's DVD creation sister program DVD Architect for DVD authoring. RT editing is up to your computer, specifically your processor. Vegas makes no use at all of your video card. I have found exporting satisfactory for my uses (but I am doing mostly direct to DVD or QT for the web).

Titling is weak, and has been for some time. Do it in AE or for simple animations, design in PS and then import png files.
 
DVD Architect is an OUTSTANDING authoring application.

Realtime editing is excellent -- no rendering, ever, unless you want to. Playback depends on your processor speed.

More advantages: unmatched compositing tools.
 
Vegas and AE work well together. You can export an aaf without rendering to AE. and when done in AE, you then can render back out to vegas using NTSC or preferrebly uncompressed.
 
I like everything about Vegas except its titling and how if you choose a bad setting on a render it will wait until rendering is over to tell you.
 
Say David...if I up my RAM from 2GB dual-channel to 4GB single-channel, will I see a significant boost in my playback and rendering speed?
 
I use Vegas and love it. It's amazingly easy to accomplish anything in it. My editing has gotten so quick because of its user friendly interface.

My question since the thread mentioned FCP and Vegas is this:

*Is there any difference in quality of footage if you edited something in Vegas as opposed to FCP? The reason I asked is because I had a client tell me he wanted me to edit in FCP because he said that there was a slight degradation when doing color correction on a 720p (HVX) movie if it came from FCP and then was altered in Vegas. I know it sounds strange to me so I thought I would just double check with some of the pros here. I mean is the color space handled better in FCP than in Vegas? What's the deal? Am I missing something?
Jgastelb
 
Well, currently, there are only two ways to get DVCPRO HD footage out of FCP and into Vegas that anyone's going to use -- by exporting a DVCPRO HD Quicktime and bringing it into Vegas with Raylight Decoder, or by exporting to P2 first and then bringing it into Vegas with Raylight. Either way, Raylight is going to give you exactly what came out of FCP, so if there are problems with the footage because it came from FCP, the problem is with FCP.

As for FCP's color manipulation being superior, that's poppycock.
 
David Jimerson said:
Well, currently, there are only two ways to get DVCPRO HD footage out of FCP and into Vegas that anyone's going to use -- by exporting a DVCPRO HD Quicktime and bringing it into Vegas with Raylight Decoder, or by exporting to P2 first and then bringing it into Vegas with Raylight. Either way, Raylight is going to give you exactly what came out of FCP, so if there are problems with the footage because it came from FCP, the problem is with FCP.

As for FCP's color manipulation being superior, that's poppycock.
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David,
I couldn't have said it better. I just wish Vegas had more respect in the industry. That's all.
Jgastelb
 
jgastelb said:
I use Vegas and love it. It's amazingly easy to accomplish anything in it. My editing has gotten so quick because of its user friendly interface.

My question since the thread mentioned FCP and Vegas is this:

*Is there any difference in quality of footage if you edited something in Vegas as opposed to FCP? The reason I asked is because I had a client tell me he wanted me to edit in FCP because he said that there was a slight degradation when doing color correction on a 720p (HVX) movie if it came from FCP and then was altered in Vegas. I know it sounds strange to me so I thought I would just double check with some of the pros here. I mean is the color space handled better in FCP than in Vegas? What's the deal? Am I missing something?
Jgastelb
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Probably what he is talking about is that Raylight uses video system RGB as opposed to computer RGB, or he doesn't understand the difference.

This has been discussed a few times on this forum. Video system RGB may look flatter or less saturated to the eye than computer RGB, but it handles superwhite much better (does not clip it as severely), and the end result when it gets to the audience is better IMO. For example when someone sends us a quicktime to transfer to film with Apple DV codec, we jimmy the codec flags and set it for Avid DV codec as the first step, to get around the bad, and non-configurable, YUV conversion coming from the Apple codec.

What I think many people have problems with is they are judging color off the computer screen which is a no-no (unless your product is strictly for the web).
 
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