Tascam announces PCM in-line wireless lav recorders & XLR cube recorder

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Belt pack recorder to use by itself, or to daisy chain to a wireless belt pack. Comes in either Sennheiser or Lectroconics jacks with additional options for Shure or Sony systems.
http://tascam.com/product/dr-10c/


Also a cube recorder to use plugged directly into the XLR jack of a microphone. (Though it looks like it only works with dynamic mics, as no mention of P48 Phantom power.)
http://tascam.com/product/dr-10x/

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Juiced Link announced a similar product around NAB last spring, but it is still in development.

See discussion here:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthrea...ittle-DARling-quot-Distributed-Audio-Recorder
 
Interesting. This would be great for certain applications but without sync to a camera it might not be best for longer form work.
 
I have been using Zoom H1's like this for awhile now. Pretty cool products for those who need remote audio recording and don't want to mess with wireless mics. Of course you lose control but this tends to be a much cheaper and slightly higher quality method of capturing lav audio as opposed to audio traveling over a wireless signal. You basically eliminate all the odd interference issues that even some higher end wireless mics can still pick up. Basically I have found a Zoom H1 plus a decent lav mic to sound better than $600.00 + wireless mics due to not having static or interference. The Zoom H1 however is not the most ergonomic option or really built exactly for that specific purpose so if these are affordable enough I am very interested.
 
Just read on Personal View that they may have a list price of $199.00. While a heck of a lot cheaper than wireless mics that is still a lot more than a Zoom H1. I do really love my Tascam DR60 however so I am still considering these. The much smaller size, belt clip and backup audio track at a lower level could really come in handy and may be worth the extra cost to me.

By the way that handheld plugin version is pretty darn sweet as well. We used to use a wireless Sennheiser XLR plugin to plug into handheld mics and sound boards. This will be a very nice alternative to that. Since I use FCPX for editing post audio sync is tolerable.
 
Thomas Smet said:
Just read on Personal View that they may have a list price of $199.00. While a heck of a lot cheaper than wireless mics that is still a lot more than a Zoom H1.
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At twice the price of a H1 it is a big difference, but much nicer form factor, plus locking connections. Plus you can still hook up to a wireless belt pack w/o running two lavs.

Honestly I use a nice Lectrosonics set which just kicks ass in my personal kit. To buy one new it is about $2k. At work we have 6 Sennheiser sets, each which cost $600 & often have problems. $600 + $200 is still a lot cheaper than $2k.

I read that the DR-10x will be $149, which is nice. Although no passthrough.

Bassman2003 said:
Interesting. This would be great for certain applications but without sync to a camera it might not be best for longer form work.
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If you use the DR-10c with a wireless beltpack, then you still have sync to the camera. But you now also have a recording that won't get wireless hits in it.

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Honestly I really hope they come out with a model in the future with P48. Even if it cuts the battery life in half, or it is slightly larger that it takes 2x AA batteries instead of a single one, I really think that would be worth it.

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Edit: One thing that I have to note that I really love about these. Headphone jacks.

Seriously, Canon's lack of headphone jacks on their DSLRs makes me so happy when I see something to obviously simple that should be included on anything that records audio.
 
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Bassman2003 said:
Interesting. This would be great for certain applications but without sync to a camera it might not be best for longer form work.
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I don't really an issue with longer form recordings. If they slightly drift over time it is very easy to slice the audio in two or three and shift a frame or two in the timeline. I have found it is the long form stuff that is much easier for me to deal with external audio. It is the short stuff that drives me nuts. Like the 500 clips of 3 to 8 seconds long that need to sync with 500 sound clips or a single massive audio clip. The long form stuff is pretty darn easy to sync even without syncing software.
 
zijital said:
At twice the price of a H1 it is a big difference, but much nicer form factor, plus locking connections. Plus you can still hook up to a wireless belt pack w/o running two lavs.

Honestly I use a nice Lectrosonics set which just kicks ass in my personal kit. To buy one new it is about $2k. At work we have 6 Sennheiser sets, each which cost $600 & often have problems. $600 + $200 is still a lot cheaper than $2k.

I read that the DR-10x will be $149, which is nice. Although no passthrough.



If you use the DR-10c with a wireless beltpack, then you still have sync to the camera. But you now also have a recording that won't get wireless hits in it.

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Honestly I really hope they come out with a model in the future with P48. Even if it cuts the battery life in half, or it is slightly larger that it takes 2x AA batteries instead of a single one, I really think that would be worth it.

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Edit: One thing that I have to note that I really love about these. Headphone jacks.

Seriously, Canon's lack of headphone jacks on their DSLRs makes me so happy when I see something to obviously simple that should be included on anything that records audio.
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I like the idea of also using a wireless transmitter. Best of both worlds. Only drawback is a much larger and cumbersome setup to hook on people.
 
You can always go Zaxcomm, wireless transmitter & recorder built into single unit. Your's for only $1,750

http://zaxcom.com/products/trxla2/

But seriously, in my dream world these sell well enough that Sennheiser starts putting them into their recorders. Or someone makes one that attaches directly to a Sennheiser unit, so it is easier to use.
 
I've never used Zaxcom, but my Lectrosonics can't do this: http://vimeo.com/84915437

That being said, for everything I use my Lectro for, it has yet to fail me. And while I'd happily take a brand new set if Zaxcom handed it to me, if it was my own money I'd probably buy one of these Tascams if I was in a situation like the one shown in NYC.
 
Yeah I've felt that way with Panasonic DVC-Pro cameras, I used a number of them over the years & could never remember the model numbers.

Sony was always fine, I don't know why but possibly because it was usually 3x letters - 3x numbers LLL-NNN (DXC-537, UVW-100, BVW-300) where Panasonic was a confusing mix of of letter number letter letter number (AJ-D410AP, AJ-HDC20AP, AJ-D610WAP). Or maybe it was just that Sony mixed numbers & letters that their combos were just easier to remember.

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Anyway, better photos of the DR-10x can be found here:

http://www.tascam.eu/en/downloads/current/DR-10X
 
zijital said:
If you use the DR-10c with a wireless beltpack, then you still have sync to the camera. But you now also have a recording that won't get wireless hits in it.
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I was thinking more about drift over a longer record time. Drift may or may not be a issue but we will has to see after testing a unit. If they designed it to work with video it might be fine as Thomas stated.

I would like to look a the DR-10x to replace running a cable for board feeds during live shows. I don't see any mention of line input but it would be great. But, in this case drift would be very important as this would be your main audio.
 
 
Great price, great product, I will definitely get one.

It would be nice if you could it had a little remote with VCR controls. Start, Stop, Record. And maybe a little indicator that shows that it's actually recording. I would hate to go an entire day and find out that my audio was blank.
 
It looks like it has a screen on it that will show when it is recording. Though it would be even better if it had blue tooth or wifi so you could check on the status with your phone.
 
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