Tablet device with HDMI input

Paul,

The real question is if they have a genuine HD screen and will they work as a no-latency display from a video cam. If it did, you could use it instead of a high priced monitor for critical focus and framing. That would change everything....er well a lot of things.

Grant
 
My brain is disengaged. I meant to say they have HDMI-out. I've been searching for HDMI-in, but have not found it. Many just say they have HDMI, without specifying in/out.

Yes, that is my thoughts as well. I'm looking for something for my jib. Right now I'm going to use a Curtis 13" tv that has 1366 x 768 native resolution. That's the highest resolution I've found in a modestly-priced, small, DC powered monitor. It's a bit big. I'd like a 10".
 
Hey guys, I'm in the same boat. I've got a 7D with the mini-HDMI output and live-view. Awesome stuff but I don't want to strap my laptop to my forehead or steadi-cam to take a look.

I'm looking at the Motorola XOOM, it's got an HDMI output but since it runs on Android isn't it likely that it could be hacked to take a video feed in as well? Seems likely to me.

I'm going to check with an android guy and see if it's possible... Please update anyone if you have a XOOM
 
I'm looking at the Motorola XOOM, it's got an HDMI output but since it runs on Android isn't it likely that it could be hacked to take a video feed in as well? Seems likely to me.
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Sorry to pour cold water on this idea, but it just won't work like this. Android is just software. You need a completely different hardware architecture and - most importantly - a dedicated chipset - to handle real-time video inputs. There is no such architecture in a consumer product that was never intended to input video.

Dave Shapton
Atomos
 
I too am also looking for a samsung, ipad ( rumors of a ipad three with A5) or blackberry with video in or HDMI. Man wouldn't we all be smiling ear to ear.
 
I haven't seen any hdmi in pad.
The hdmi 1.4 support this feature, but many tablet has blocked in.
Maybe for froozing device. No idea to the hdmi in pad.
If someone found it paste it there, it can be famous for low-cost filmmaking.
The zebra and peaking would be only software update.
 
There are NO HDMI IN pads, they just dont exist... there is NO practical reason for manufacturers to make them since they are to be considered the source of the video they are only outfitted with an HDMI out.
 
Should search for portable HDMI monitors

Should search for portable HDMI monitors

Until there is a tablet w HDMI input, look to portable HDMI monitors for inexpensive displays for video/dSLR and similar applications.
Unfortunately it will not do double duty as a tablet and it may be a bit bulkier and somewhat lower resolution (1024 x 600). Worst of all
you need to supply portable power.


http://www.dhgate.com/10-1-led-tft-...creen/r-ff8080812af5994d012af5baa4c42eb2.html

If you search a bit more you can even find something quite a bit better sounding:

Cheaper
http://www.dhgate.com/10-1-usb-lcd-...1012c/r-ff8080813199b377013199bd9eff050b.html

I have not purchased anything from this vendor so I have no idea about reliability of vendor or products. I'm just helping with the search.
 
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I think, as mentioned, that the return on investment of having an HDMI input of a tablet is just not going to get manufacturers to add it. Our use would be so minimal compared to the target market these devices are intended for. Because of that, and as said it would require dedicated hardware to do so, you are likely not going to see it as a hardware connection anytime soon.

Not that I can't see people using them as portable displays for other hardware, like a game system, or bluRay player, but again, given people are chasing Apple, you can be GUARANTEED that Apple isn't going to add that. They want your game playing and video watching on their own software.

I have searched HIGH and LOW for this capability myself. I was a developer of Iphone apps even for a short time and I looked into it from a hardware perspective. As Rob says, the backbone isn't there.

The next question becomes, can an external device do this? That's depends on the bandwidth of the port connection and that I am not sure. Input bandwidth != output bandwidth, totally separate.

Even if it was USB only, the processing power of a software solution would KILL the battery to get it in the camera. That's a lot of power. And, have you used a USB display adapter? I have one. Moving video at 1920x1080 kills the performance of a quad core i7 2.2Ghz machine and is really choppy. The cost of that hardware to drive that is going to make something like the DP6 seem like a lot better deal.

There is quite a bit of precedence that wireless is where it is at. The new Canon C300 has an option for controlling/monitoring the C300 over a webbrowser on a wireless device. Further, Red showed their wireless monitoring on an iPad last year that isn't available yet. I've even seen wireless monitoring solutions for a company that I do beta testing for that stopped working on it because the market wasn't there for it.

I think all of us looking for a solution is a good thing, and I'd LOVE to use my iDevices as well. Maybe someone will just throw this feature in to differentiate themselves from everyone else. But, I wouldn't get my hopes up too much. We are a niche market, and therefore, other features would be their target since they'd get more traction with them.

That said, man, I would LOVE to monitor with the display on the iPhone4. It's SO crisp!!! Hopefully LG who makes the display will get it into cameras at some point!!
 
I think the innovations like this are going to come from the open source hardware community (eventually). Take a look at the apertus project and their monitor/viewfinder page: http://apertus.org/en/viewfinder

(and remember, our aim to is monitor, not record over these wimpy connections -- we can probably use WiFi to get a good enough signal for aim and framing and focusing, but it will never be a good enough signal for capture)
 
This thing uses USB, but it a bit closer to the ideal way to do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRWNLSmW3MU
THE big drawback will be the speed. There is just no way that it will be able to show the signal with a low enough latency to be usable for real-time shooting. It will always lag behind the action.

It will be low framerate (15 fps), and probably lag behind what the camera is seeing/recording by about a quarter of a second.
Another look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEeRUFEC4tc

It looks like it will with with practically any Canon EOS model made in the past 4-6 years.

The software developer's website is here: http://dslrcontroller.com/

(It certainly looks like it is good enough to set up crane shots, for example)
 
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