T. Larkin Productions editing contest

[milksac]

There are lots of people who will work for next to nothing, especially when times are tough. If they are happy with such pay, then it is their choice to participate.

Short sighted view. I suppose you think that crowd sourcing is a good idea. By encouraging this sort of behavior you're actually hurting those just starting out. How do you expect them to earn a living if you devalue the skill of editorial to below minimum wage?

Yes, there's handful of individuals that have enough passion to succeed in this industry despite the economic challenges. But for many, the "work for free" business model eventually drives them away from the industry entirely.

...somebody like Spielberg...

I would love to hear Spielberg's take on the economic impact of these so called contests.

 

[tomlarkin]

Tom, while I understand Ryan's position on this, and agree to a point, I am not trying to come down on you. But if you are an editor as you say, how could you leave yourself in a corner like this? There is absolutely NOWHERE to go. Every cut would be a jump cut. There's no angle changes, no coverage, not even any different focal lengths to get in and out.

That is why the video was shot the way it was. It was meant to have jump cuts all over the place. My inspirations were old Busta Rhymes videos, and The All-American Reject's "Move Along"

 

[tomlarkin]

This is also not something that I was gearing at editors that are editing for a living. This was directed more at the kids who are just starting and who want to get their feet wet. If the prize is too low for you, then obviously this contest isn't for you. This entire video was done on spec, so everyone is in the same boat here.

 

[tomlarkin]

If someone handed me this job for money, I'd call for a reshoot. And I don't say that to be harsh, but it's just the reality of what's here.

When is the last time, as an editor, you had the power to call for a reshoot? If the director has a vision for the video, and the editor can't do it, then the director finds another editor. Plain and simple. Very rarely is there an occasion that the editor can make a decision like that. Once again, this video was shot with the intention of there being jump cuts. That is why we shot each location twice. So our talent would jump all over the frame.

 

[PerroneFord]

When is the last time, as an editor, you had the power to call for a reshoot? If the director has a vision for the video, and the editor can't do it, then the director finds another editor. Plain and simple. Very rarely is there an occasion that the editor can make a decision like that. Once again, this video was shot with the intention of there being jump cuts. That is why we shot each location twice. So our talent would jump all over the frame.

My situation is a bit unique... I am a producer as well as an editor. Heck most of the time I do everything, but in general, I can call for a reshoot. I know that is VERY unusual from the editor's chair.

But given the information that you just offered, about jump cuts, then that makes sense. But it's a bit of information you should probably have divulged so those of us with a bit of experience had some idea of what your vision was on these.

I am at least glad to see that the only option I saw for cutting, was exactly the option you wanted!

 

[tomlarkin]

I am at least glad to see that the only option I saw for cutting, was exactly the option you wanted!

I can understand sitting in a bunch of different seats. I think we all do it to some extent. I'm glad I was able to open your eyes a little bit to my vision for the video. I was purposely trying to abstain from that though, to give the editors creative freedom to take it where they wanted to.

 

[tomlarkin]

Here is the first submission for the contest: