Syncing Footage

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Keegs

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Hey guys
I just finished a project on s16 and recorded sound on a fostex (digital).

How do I marry the video to the audio once synced? Do i have to make a master timeline, and then export via quicktime? Or can I keep the reference files and have it so that the two clips are always stuck together?

Hope this makes some sort of sense.

Oh, and $%^^&*, I have a bootleg copy of final cut, cant figure out a way to download the newest update, so I cant edit my 24p HDV footage! Any hints as to how I can get away with not buying it? I bought all versions up until 5, and I guess this is how they get you....

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Keegan
 
What I do, is place all video and audio in the same timeline, and search for a single sound in the video, that I can use as a landmark, and find the same sound in your audio track. Just move the audio track to line it up. Use the peaks in the audio wave forms to help you match it up exactly. Using the peaks when expanded to a single frame level helps get it as close as possible. Then you are synced up.
 
No I understand the theory of syncing, and we used clapper sticks/slate, but the problem is that I dont know how to marry them together as a two separate files. So when I go back to edit, I dont have to sync up every time I drag the video and audio files into the timeline seperately. Do I export that timeline, or make a sub-timeline every time I sync a scene/take?

Sorry if I wasn't so clear. Thanks for the response tho.
 
Sorry if things are fuzzy... I'm cooking Thanksgiving dinner, and inbetween basting the turkey, I'm getting basted on white russians. I don't know anything about FC, or patching bootleg versions. I use Premiere, and can only assume that FC will use some of the same tools and whatnot. Once you get the tracks synched up, there should be an option to lock the audio to the video track.
 
Not trying to be an ass here, but:
Please buy the software you're (trying to) mak(e)ing a living off.
That's what gets it updated (and that's what puts milions of option $$$ into Steves pocket. I know. Accept it or not.) If you don't like the businessmodell, work with open source software. There are options out there - for Linux at least.

Point is threefold:
Don't ask publicly about crack'ed software.
It's plain stupid. And it is kinda nonserious. The hassles you bring upon yourself by using cracked software are yours to solve.

I (for one) like to publicly bash Apples ass for the faults of their software and ask them to put their FCP team of 1-2-25-100-whatever number of people to PLEASE FIX THIS NOW!!! Even BenB has gone to that extreme -;)

I can do this - and eventually get things fixed - because I pay.
AND I, on the other hand - can pay house, cars, employees, whatnot because they eventually fix it.

On all non-underground fora (like this) noone can or will answer. If they do, the post should go offline at once... And rightfully so.

This is actually not a moralistic sidenote - even though it may look as such.

G
 
Not trying to be an ass either but...

I seriously dont give a f@#k. I have purchased every literal update and version of final cut. HOWEVER, I DID buy an update from my 4, which turned out to be some student version, taht you cant upgrade, and got stiffed the money. Every one of my other apps are legit, and I simply couldnt bare to eat the money. But now, it seems I have to, and I am completely cool with that, cause this is how the system works.

But, I still dont give a f@#k about running bootleg software. But these are hurdles that come around because of it.

So you know how to match the video and audio together so that I dont have to drag from one sequence to another every time I need to grab a clip?
 
I have to many software engineer friends to actually help you on this one sorry. It is very simple to do though, just read your manual. Good luck.

Cheers.
 
There's a way to do it, very simple, but I just suddenly don't give a f@#k.

When you pay for a professional product, we'll give you professional advice.

Otherwise we'll all just follow you lead and not give a f@#k.

Maybe in the future you won't buy questionable crap on eBay and buy from authorized resellers so everyone involved in the creation and distribution of what you obviously rely very heavily on, can get a paycheck.

Yes, there's a very easy, simply way to do it during capture, but, who really gives a f@#k?
 
hmm....

hmm....

Ok, I think many of you got the wrong impression, rightfully so however.

BTW, I have figured out how to do it, so I am not worried. Also, as an FYI, I have already purchased my FCStudio.

First: My frustration comes from the fact that when I purchased final cut 4 STUDENT, I was told there was no disadvantage to purchasing a student branded software. Awesome. Apple is really cool with cool with the "starving" student and the "need" for a reasonable price point.

Wrong.

When final cut 5 was released, I went to my respectable Apple retail store after failing to figure out how to get my "upgrade" version to activate from my student. I was then informed that when you buy the 500 dollar student version (not sure if this is exactly what it was for studio), you can NOT upgrade from an entire version, but rather need to buy the new release as a whole new product...

Now, does anyone believe this is proper? I have run the standard app. (non student) since day one when FCP1 was released. FCP 4 was the first time I purchased a student version. Also the last.

So when I was jammed with a project where someone had fed-ex'd me a project on a drive, and I needed to upgrade to his version, but instead had to deal with several days of confusion and hassle, my natural instict was...f#@^ it. I have supported final cut and apple in every other way possible. I had my friend send me an installer and found a key and voila, I was up and running in a couple hours.

Ever since then, I havent really had the need or want to purchase my own copy. I figure "no need". I thought I had been drawn to the "dark side" of software bootlegging. All I needed was a P2P downloading program to run all day and I would be one of them.

But now, I have run into my first hurdle with a cracked version, and am back in the camp of having the satisfaction of running my own registered software. As in my previous 2 posts, I STATED that I was now screwed by the situation I created, and if I was, then I ACCEPT THAT. Yeh it was a frustrating couple of days and I came off harsh, but thats the way it was. Was I harsh to say I dont give a f===? yeh, sure. But frustration is an understatement.

And BenB, I have no idea why you think i bought questionable crap on eBay. Assumptions? this is why I felt the need to rebut here.

Also, another thing is that I break my ass at school, and break my ass trying to get a measly $1000 job here or there. That 1k price tag for studio is steeeeeeeeep when I am counting my nickels and dimes...so when teh cracked opportunity came, i thought "how could it hurt?"

Sure, if I was a baller and could easily say that I "make my fortune and livelyhood or run my business off of final cut" than yeh, sure, I would buy 5 copies for all 5 of my editing stations...but unfortunately that isn't the case. However, hopefully one day it will be right?

Any more pissed off people, software designers, or assumers? I welcome criticism and discussion, because no one learns from a stale environment. Hell, maybe I would be so lucky as to steve jobs coming on here and yelling at me for jacking a couple bucks from him. I understand how the system works, so don't tell me " its not steve, its about the littler guys and the whole economic system chain you cheat". I am simply making a joke...

Back to film making...or actually editing a boring industrial how-to...
 
All you reasoning or frustrations aside, don't overlook the fact that pirating software is illegal. There is no explination/justification/bs that you can come up with that makes that untrue. Its illegal, end of story.

Now does Apple, and other big software companies, do things that frustrate people? Are some of these things so frustrating that they make pirating software look like a good solution? Of course. Whether it be over pricing, bugs, the student vs non-student situation you got into, it exists with all software. So what? It sucks, that's life, suck it up buttercup and learn to deal. No such thing as the perfect software or the perfect software deal. Well just have to find ways to cope, its part of the reality of software. And there are legal ways to cope.

As for the cost of the gear and the return you're getting on it. Dude I imagine you're so barking up the wrong tree with that around here. I bet the folks around here can flood you with an endless list of volunteer gigs they had to do when they started out. Gigs they did to gain experience and contacts, but that cost them, not earned them money. They didn't get to count dimes and nickels, they got to count pop cans as they tried to survive (yes a bit dramatic, but whatever). I'm sure there are plenty of people here who have had to live off Mr. Noodle and Kraft Dinner for a month. I'm also sure some have worked secondary jobs that do pay while trying to further their film/television career(s). And plenty of them have done all that with legit, legal copies of software. Sure its frustrating to see the bigger dogs with all their fancy toys and such, but how well have you really talked to those bigger dogs, I bet you plenty of them flirted with bankruptcy, or at least some financial hardship, at some time or another. Life is hard, we all have to learn how to deal, and we don't have to break the law to do it.

cheers.
 
And Varicam, I completely agree.

I know that making it into this business you start at the bottom. I am not saying I am in a unique position. It just made it that much easier for me to run a bootleg copy.

And yes, I am fully aware that running bootleg is illegal. I KNOW. Is it right? No. Was it appealing at the time, adn hence the situation I was in a couple days ago? Yes. I understand how the system works, so thanks anyways for the lesson.
 
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