Super Lame 1000th post: Fassbinder

Policar

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I wanted to have a good 1000th post but it's not happening. This will have to do. (In other news, I'm back. Yay! I built a crane and dolly, too, and am doing a mini35 shoot this October as some crew member. So exciting.)

Anyhow, so I'm taking a class on the New German Cinema, and every week we watch a film by either Wenders, Shlondorff, Herzog, or Fassbinder (a few others, too I guess) but right now we're focusing on Fassbinder.

The man is amazing. I saw Marriage of Maria Braun last year and didn't get it. Then I saw (this year) Love is Colder than Death (if you think that's a cool title, his original idea for a title was "Cold Steel") and thought it was the weirdest thing ever but interesting. Then Merchant of Four Seasons. Again, bizarre. But I'm starting to love all his movies the more I think about them.

The guy's fascinating, too. Two of his primary influences are Douglas Sirk (made 1950s melodramas) and Brecht (wanted the drama/empathy to be taken out of a production so that a moral message or cultural critique or whatever would appear). They have totally opposite goals which seem impossible to reconcile and yet Fassbinder achieves both distance and tenderness.

He's also insane. He was gay, but he got married, he made like 40 films in 20 years, he made a 15 hour movie, he's a horrible cynic, yet the interviews I've read with him make him out to be one of the most tender people you could imagine, just somehow completely disheartened. He also looks just like me (or at least did when he was only a bit older than me.)

Anyhow, if anyone has seen any of his movies, I'm curious what they think, especially in relation to Sirk or even Lars von Trier (especially Dogville.)
 
Have you seen the TV series? Berlin Alexanderplatz? VERY nice. I am not a huge fan, and I do find his films a little too boring for my taste - maybe it's just hard for me to relate to german culture, even though I'm partly from a german family...

I have seen Maria Braun and liked some of it, but I have to confess that I'm no Fassbinder fan... Wenders is a german I like much more...

Don't you feel Fassbinder is a little boring? I know a lot of people that really understand cinema that swears by him. Maybe I'm not inteligent enough for him...
 
I thought he could be boring at first, but now I I really enjoy his movies. I don't know--maybe I've seen so many "art films" that really bored me that I'm used to boring movies. His movies are slow, but they're engaging. His characters are endearing, disgusting, funny, and sad all at once. It's an imperssive balancing act. Then again, I've only seen three so far. I'm excited to see something by Wenders. I can't believe I haven't seen one of his movies yet.

I will try to check out Berlin Alexanderplatz. It seems so long, though.... Maybe I'll get some friends together and make a weekend of it.
 
Fassbinder + Bogarde = 105% freako

Fassbinder + Bogarde = 105% freako

I do admire Fassbinder too!
One of his most hidden treasures is this 1978 adaptation of Nabokov's novel "Despair" with Dirk Bogarde in the leading role. At that time Bogarde perhaps reached his artistic climax after such masterpieces as in The Servant, Death in Venice, Accident and The Night Porter.. Most of these are available from Criterion or Anchor bay DVD..

Despair is unfortunately still not available on DVD only VHS..
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...f=sr_1_1/102-2974107-5196908?v=glance&s=video
 
One of the first things I ever shot was for a director I met in film class at a community college who was a huge Fassbinder fan. We shot a short, experimental film on 4X Super8 black&white film transfered and edited on Umatic S/P. It was called "ParaBinder", in that it was a parody of Fassbinder's life. Everybody commited suicide in strange ways in slo-mo. We watched a lot of Fassbinder's films. Liked most of them until we got to "Querelle". Holy ****, that is a rough movie to watch, even though the styilized look is kinda cool. Fassbinder was a very interesting person.
 
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