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Sam Lebo

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I'm working on a project that's going to be educational and I'm hoping to have it look enticing and appealing as do all the educational cooking shows out there. So i took it upon my self to study how some of these things are done and am getting lost along the way.
i want my project to look like this clip:

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=WxV9QLuEwZo

But I do not know if this was done with :

1) 2 cameras in one take. if it was done with 2 cameras, then:
a) was there one camera on CU, and one on full scene (right next to each other)
OR
b) one camera on side, one in front of scene and they cropped it in post to look like a CU.
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2) 1 camera with multiple takes


what planning do i have to do to get my material to look like that?
 
My guess would be two cameras, one doing CU's and one doing coverage. THis would have been a directed show so the camera doing CU is being directed where to focus up by the director over clear-com.
 
Sam Lebo said:
I'm working on a project that's going to be educational and I'm hoping to have it look enticing and appealing as do all the educational cooking shows out there. So i took it upon my self to study how some of these things are done and am getting lost along the way.
i want my project to look like this clip:

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=WxV9QLuEwZo

But I do not know if this was done with :

1) 2 cameras in one take. if it was done with 2 cameras, then:
a) was there one camera on CU, and one on full scene (right next to each other)
OR
b) one camera on side, one in front of scene and they cropped it in post to look like a CU.
​
2) 1 camera with multiple takes


what planning do i have to do to get my material to look like that?
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The rare occasions that I've been in a TV broadcast studio, for a 'live' type show, (maybe about 35 years ago...), the set up was three cameras, so that the director could switch to any side that was 'good' for the show.

The basic setup is to allow the show talent to just run once through the material, especially something that involves detailed 'work' activities, and especially if the person doing the activity is not use to being filmed.

The last 'industrial' video I did, I only had one camera, and getting 'wide' shots, then having someone 'redo' the work for the close up was... problematic... In addition it was in a cramped radio room and I was shooting from behind racks of electronics gear, trying to avoid getting caught on equipment...

Fortunately it was more for 'give a flavor' of how the equipment was installed, rather than for a detailed certification program...
 
I was on set of a cookery program 'hairy bikers' yesterday simlar format

I dont know the tech terms but

it was basically one take - the director made them (the talent) 'rewind' a couple of times

Two cameras shoulder mount and a director watching two monitors barking orders in the ears of the the two camera men via some walkie talkie device

Both cameras were rolling the whole time

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From an editor's perspective, I would much rather a shoot like that be multi-camera.
With FCP's multi-camera feature, you could have a rough cut in one pass.

Shawn
 
I think you could easily do this with two EX1s. Just please use a clap board to sync each take. If I were directing, I would do...

1. Take one - camera one wide, camera two medium
2. Take two - camera one CU, camera two OTS
would also go back and shoot some select moves on CUs to track with his hands, if he was not talking the whole time, I would also get some CU facial reaction shots as he looks down and concentrates on what he is doing.

Shawn's got it right, FCP's multiclip rocks, I just used it for a skit shoot for a corporate thing, it works really well and is easier to use than you would think. Just make sure that you slate each take and use the clapboard, it makes using multiclip a breeze.

Most of the new shows I am working on are two or three camera, it is just more efficient. This could be shot single camera but it would be a lot more work for everyone involved although you could light it better shooting it single camera film style.

Dan
 
That was definitely a two-camera shoot. Doing it with a single camera creates too high a risk of continuity problems and makes the editor's job much harder. I watched carefully and although there were a couple of "slightly off" edits, I couldn't find any continuity breaks.
 
Gordon Ramsey is a mega TV star, notorious for his impatience. I think one take, with pick-ups for close-ups and profile shot.

The camera is in the same place throughout, to GR's right at around 2 o'clock. If two cameras had been used the CU cam would be blocking the WS. I think one camera.

So 1 camera 1 take - but that doesn't mean it's easy to pull off. That was a very stylishly shot piece, but a high-profile prima donna like Ramsey will get a crack BBC crew.
 
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