Strange problem - Help!

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David W. Richardson

Chapelgrove Films
I'm using Premiere 6.0.

A guy sent me a 56-minute .AVI of his film for editing. My first step was to cut this one single file into takes. I put the .AVI on a timeline, and everywhere there is a camera cut, I did a 'Razor At Edit Line'.

But now, if I change anything on any one of the clips, the ENTIRE timeline goes red and has to be rendered. Why should that be??? Why can't I change color, contrast, etc. on one single clip and only have to re-render just that clip? I've never seen this behavior before on anything else I've edited in Premiere.

Any ideas?
 
I don't know Premier 6, but

I don't know Premier 6, but

you ask for ideas; here's one out of the dark:
Does Premier 6 allow for subclips? PPro 2 does, and that's all I have, so pardon my ignorance...just trying to help.
I'm not an expert, but if you already dragged the 56-min AVI (the master clip) onto the timeline, then razored, I suspect certain aspects/characterisitcs of the razored pieces might be considered the same as those of the one large clip, but I'm guessing here...not positive.
What appears in the Project Panel? If it's only the one large 56-min clip, that may be a hint that the Tiemline is still treating the one large clip as a single entity. That may be enough for the entire thing to require rendering.

PPro 2 allows creation of subclips. Each appeara as a separate entity in the project panel. (Identified in PPro 2 by a different icon). Drag each of those into the timeline. I think then you might be able to successfully apply effects to each. Even after that, you may still have to render, though.

Check Help for the steps to create a subclip, (it's easy in PPro 2 - don't know about Prem 6).

Hope this sheds some light on your problem.
 
Thanks for the reply. As far as I can tell, 6.0 does not allow subclips. The Project Panel just shows the single 56-minute clip. I tried changing the clip alias on the timeline, hoping that would make a difference -- it didn't. Also tried dragging the clip up to the Project Panel, but that didn't work either.

Any other thoughts?
 
One other thought...

One other thought...

though it's probably time-consuming:

with the 56-min clip dragged to the timeline, razor at the point where you want the first "new" clip to end. Then, delete the remaining footage from the timeline.
Export the clip that remains in the Timeline, (if Prem 6 allows that), then repeat, i.e. drag-razor-delete-export, for each successive/shorter clip until you've created and exported files for each individual/shorter clip. The "first" clip (at the beginning of the footage) would require only 1 razor; so would the the last clip. Each intervening clip would require 2 razor points - 1 at its' beginning and 1 at it's end.
Then, with the timeline empty, rebuild it from scratch by importing each of the previously-exported clips, adding effects to one clip at a time. (Tedious, I know).

Again, I don't know if Prem 6 allows all this; just trying to help.

Good luck...and please report back with your progress. I'm confident others here are experienced enough with Prem 6 to help with this dilema.

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I used Premiere 6 for a few years and am now on Pro2 and the biggest advantage it has is the creation of subclips. Unfortunately 6 does not so my workflow on projects like this basically consisted of the what x002657 said.

Open the 56 min AVI in your source monitor > set your in and out for a specific clip > drag that piece into your timeline > then export movie, save it as something like "3.1.6" (scene 3, shot 1, take 6) into a specific folder > repeat for every take > finally open a new project with the same presets and just import all of your newly created files, you shouldnt need any rendering because presets are matching.
 
If I recall correctly, 6.5 certainly could create Subclips although in a different manner to 2.0. (Can not remember if 6.0 did or not)

BTW : Subclips in 2.0 is known to be a bit buggy. Beware.
 
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