Steven Spielberg - Genius or Overrated?

michael_summers said:
people are very ignorant. i suggest you research the man before judging him by common knowledge, and actually viewing the films for what they were. nothing short of genius.
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Come on man. Just because some of us would not label Gallo as a genius doesn't make us ignorant. To me, the guy shouldn't even be considered genius. You have to judge a body of work. And, I don't think his is nearly big enough. I respect that you think he's worthy of genius title. I just think that that distinction goes to a very small list of which he isn't included.

And I agree, Spielberg does do big. But, doing big ain't easy. He's got a gift. But filmmaking is a collaborative effort. You have to consider script, actors, story, editing, score, etc. Sometimes, he can't be in every place at the same time. But, when he's firing on all cylinders, there are very very very few filmmakers as good. Just re-watch the first 15 minutes of ET and refresh your memory. He grabs you from shot one.

Rick
 
Success is not mutually exclusive from brilliance...or put another way, mass popularity does not cancel out artistic genius. For whatever reason, however, this seems to be the case with Spielberg in some eyes. Make no mistake...this is nothing new. It is something he has dealt with since the post-Jaws period. I, for one, will never understand this attitude. I wonder if Michelangelo would have faced the same elitist snobbery if he had been subject to the global society that Spielberg has been. Would the same "intellectuals" say, "Ehhh, that statue of David is good enough for the masses..."
 
John_Hudson said:
Bergman? I can buy that.

Gallo? Are you high on something?

Tell me Mr. Summers; what leads you to this take?
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michael_summers said:
Yeah, i guess you could call me a Gallo fan-boy... but i'm just a sucker for extremely independent, egotistical contemporaries. I admire his attempt at breaking convention, which he has done very well. Who has the guts to shoot a film in entire 35mm reversal stock, then cross process it, and defy all rules of modern cinematography without even knowing if its going to be distributed? thats pretty hardcore. and imagine it, it turned out fantastastic, (that was buffalo '66) I wont comment on the other film because its sure to start a heated debate, but i liked it just as well.
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to each his own.
 
Maybe Gallo is a genius... he somehow managed to get worldwide distribution for Brown Bunny!

Distributor: "So whats the plot for this Brown Bunny movie?"

Gallo: "Well I drive around in a van for 87minutes, then get a bj from Chloe Sevingny for 3 minutes to end the film".

Distrbutor: "So what's the plot?"

Gallo: "I just told you the plot. ...oh yeah, the bj isn't simulated it's real."

Distributor: "Sold."

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As for The Man... genius or not, he can sure make a damn good film. He will go down as the greatest filmmaker ever by the time he calls it quits.
 
Stabb_Films said:
Maybe Gallo is a genius... he somehow managed to get worldwide distribution for Brown Bunny!

Distributor: "So whats the plot for this Brown Bunny movie?"

Gallo: "Well I drive around in a van for 87minutes, then get a bj from Chloe Sevingny for 3 minutes to end the film".

Distrbutor: "So what's the plot?"

Gallo: "I just told you the plot. ...oh yeah, the bj isn't simulated it's real."

Distributor: "Sold."

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As for The Man... genius or not, he can sure make a damn good film. He will go down as the greatest filmmaker ever by the time he calls it quits.
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LOL OMG NVR SEEN A JOKE LIK DAT B4
 
hey...Speilberg might be in ur top lists rite now...

wait about 10 more years....and you'll put me up thurr on the top...

:thumbsup:
 
michael_summers said:
LOL OMG NVR SEEN A JOKE LIK DAT B4
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Even if it only prevents one person from deciding to either not watch it or to just skip ahead to the end of the film it's served it's purpose.

Crazy as you are(joke) it's cool to see someone passionate about they're favorite filmmaker.

Don't know if you can qualify someone operating the camera while acting in the scene as genius though.
 
Stabb_Films said:
Even if it only prevents one person from deciding to either not watch it or to just skip ahead to the end of the film it's served it's purpose.

Crazy as you are(joke) it's cool to see someone passionate about they're favorite filmmaker.

Don't know if you can qualify someone operating the camera while acting in the scene as genius though.
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would you consider Woody Allen a genius? i might. i'd have to think about it.
 
You've got to admit that Buffalo '66 was a great movie. Give Gallo props for that. I'd watch Buffalo '66 a hundred times before I'd watch Titanic again.
 
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