STEALTH: Gunjumping.

machardi

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Poor Jamie Foxx.

If only his agent had looked at the slate of films he had coming after Ray and said "You know what Jamie, there's a chance you might get an award or two for this one, lets pick something good for your next film, so that you don't pull a Berry." (Oscar-> Catwoman).

It wasn't in the cards. It's only a matter of time before we hear a commercial for Stealth "starring Academy Award Winner.... Jamie Foxx."

I think that criticizing movies after we've seen them is getting to be pretty predictable. We're good at it, so lets try something harder. The movies themselves are so predictable, lets critique them -before- we see them.

We do this anyway, but we do it in a very vague way, which is lazy, I think we should be more specific. It can't be hard, this forthcoming film is part 2001 part Wargames, so I'm going to go first:

The trick: to name 5 scenes/lines/or moments in the film that should've been left out, because they are cliched and played out, in addition to making a good guess at how it will end.

Dialogue Guesses:

1. "Are you telling me that that -MACHINE- is thinking on its own?"
2. "It's a computer, I don't care how you do it, turn it off!"
3. "It's faster, quicker, and smarter than us. It knows all of our strategies, all of our formations, and you want us to destroy it?"
3a. "You can't destroy it, that's a 45million dollar piece of Government Property."
(to which the hero says) "Bill me."
4. "It's like HAL with missiles."
5. The Hal/Stealth blows up a school or a plane.
Cynical Government Employee: Those are your tax dollars at work, gentlemen.

6. "Whoa.. it's jamming my controls!!"
7. (an easy one) "It's on me! I can't shake it!! [eject]" (NOOOOO!)


The end of the movie:

The screenwriter is 50 years old so I'm guessing he's going to run with a "This is why computers are inferior to people" ending. ALTHOUGH he's also one of the three credited screenwriters for Big Trouble in Little China which is one of the funniest movies of all time (seriously) but that might be because of Kurt Russell.

The AI stealth is defeated by one of the human protagonists (my money's on the highest billed, fairest skinned male) who tricks it by doing some move that "only a person would do", which is the same move that he used earlier in the movie, much to the chagrin of one of his commanding officers, who informed him that that move is "crazy" and could cause the plane to stall/blackout/crash/whatever.

either that or maybe just two planes will play chicken and the human pilot will take advantage of his ability to eject but that's just stupid.



m.
 
Bwhahahah! Alright. Let me go eat dinner (mother-in-law sent Memphis BBQ) and I'll be back to play this game. I agree, we should start critiquing films VEFORE we see them. This will be fun.
 
Josh Lucas: "I'm just trying to protect you!"

Jessica Biehl: "I don't NEED protecting!



Fox: "I gotta get me one of THESE!"


Generic officer: "That girl's got jet fuel running through her veins."
 
John_Hudson said:
(mother-in-law sent Memphis BBQ)

mmmmmmm, I lived in Memphis for 6 months and that BBQ ROCKS! And I live about 12 miles from a guy that won an International National Geographic BBQ cooking contest some years back so I was totally prepared NOT to like it and did.

I had the same thought regarding Mr. Fox's agent today. This movie just doesn't look good at all.
 
Someone is going to get into a dog fight with it in mid air. They will both blow eachother up, that person will then parachute to the ground and find the crashed wreckage of the plane, though it will still be "alive" so he/ she will punch/ and or pick it up and throw it to the ground.

Here's my reaction, before I even see it (which I won't): BOOOOOOOOOOO! HISSSSSSS!
 
Lets not forget the "cheering soldiers in the control room when the dingus is destroyed" scene. Followed by the "crusty but beign authority figure" who will hug, or nod or salute the renagade hero when they meet" scene.

I'll wait for this one to make it to TBS or TNT or AMC so I can catch it at 2:00AM after a few beers... then only after making sure their is nothing on the History channel, or PBS or the Golf channel, or Lifetime, or Oxygen or OLN or the Food channel, or H&G that is even worth watching.
 
"It's over-riding the ship's controls to refuel itself!!!"

After the government realizes its mistakes, it will try to sabotage the project and eliminate both the machine and the pilots (or try to).

"Take care of it. Order the hit."

In a strange plot twist, I bet the plane teams up with the pilot.

"You're the best wingman I've ever had" --to AI.
 
nullphonic said:
mmmmmmm, I lived in Memphis for 6 months and that BBQ ROCKS! And I live about 12 miles from a guy that won an International National Geographic BBQ cooking contest some years back so I was totally prepared NOT to like it and did.

I had the same thought regarding Mr. Fox's agent today. This movie just doesn't look good at all.

First time I had Southern BBQ was in Augusta, GA (I spent a short spell there). My friend/boss (I layed Tile and Marble) took me to a place to have BBQ and at first glance I was like "What the hell is this place?"

It had picnic tables, loaves of bread on table, plastic red/white checkered cloths, Iced Tea in pitchers...

Anyway; SOuthern BBQ is daaammnnnnnn goood.

Back op topic:

This movie looks absurd. Does it not remind you of a kind Firefox/Iron Eagle thing going on?

There's got to be some Lou Gosset (Angry black veteran dude) in this who tells Jamie Fox to get his **** togteher and be more like hes father was! and Jamie Fox will say "I'm not my father!"

(EDIT - I just checked IMDB Credtis and they have :

Sam Shepard.... Capt. George Cummings

Like he won't be the angry Lou Gosset character; angry white veteran guy.)

Even Jessica Biel should be ashamed. I had total respect for after seeing Blade 3 and Texas Chainsaw. Side Note: Jessica Beil + Blue Bikini = Mercy.

This films looks really bad.
 
Something the critics will say...

-"Stealth" bombs at the boxoffice.
-A good plot in this film is much like the title's definition. It's non-existent.
 
The whole machine-sentience thing has definitely been done to death. I'll bet the pitch meeting went something along these lines.

Script Writer: "It's Terminator meets Top Gun!"

Executive BigWig: "Yeah, but that's been done before."

SW: "Yeah, but with STEALTHS!"

EBW: "Sold!"

-Edalgo
 
Oh and 50 bucks says a renegade group of terrorists they've been training to destroy earlier in the movie ends up killing the evil stealth, hence the terrorists save the day.

-Edalgo
 
Bwa ha ha ha.

This is the funniest thread I've read in a long time. Almost all of those lines I can totally see in the script and delivered on screen. The only shots in the trailer for this that I found remotely interesting were those involving the obvious sexploitation of Biel's "character".

-Spiff
 
My money says the evil Stealth computer plane grows a "conscience" at the end, joins the good guys and sacrifices itself during some pop-up terrorist activity or convient war. Or else Foxx puts on the airbrakes and let's it blow right by him.
 
I think they do the biggest movie cross-over ever for the end.

A blast from a mid air explosion leaves Jaime Foxx blind, he quits flying and plays piano...
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Jessica Beil ends up saving the world by talking calmly about their differences with the plane and her dad from 7th Heaven...
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Then, they find out that the machine is controlled by Neo through the Matrix.
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What's the most ridiculous cliche about the whole AI-turning-bad scenario is how the AI actually turns self-aware and feels it is neccessary to destroy all of man kind. What I saw in the trailer is it happened by electric shock. I mean, come on! How many times over has this been done in movies? I can't think of any movie off the top of my head that's done it, but I know I've seen it several times. In this day and age Hollywood should realize that moviegoers aren't idiots enough to believe that anymore. Anyone knows that if lightning strikes your house it's going to fry your PC, not turn it into some weapon of mass destruction hell-bent on destroying the world.
 
---nemesis--- said:
What's the most ridiculous cliche about the whole AI-turning-bad scenario is how the AI actually turns self-aware and feels it is neccessary to destroy all of man kind. What I saw in the trailer is it happened by electric shock. I mean, come on! How many times over has this been done in movies? I can't think of any movie off the top of my head that's done it, but I know I've seen it several times. In this day and age Hollywood should realize that moviegoers aren't idiots enough to believe that anymore. Anyone knows that if lightning strikes your house it's going to fry your PC, not turn it into some weapon of mass destruction hell-bent on destroying the world.

"Computer Wore Tennis Shoes" Not exactly AI becomes aware, but has the electric shock zaps computer brain into unsuspecting Kurt Russell. From Disney, 1969. Russell has one of my favorite character names, Dexter Riley... he played the character 2 more times.
 
---nemesis--- said:
Anyone knows that if lightning strikes your house it's going to fry your PC, not turn it into some weapon of mass destruction hell-bent on destroying the world.

Actually, I don't know about that.

I used to play Spades on my computer all the time, and I would whip its ass. I left it on once during a lightning storm, and ever since then it beats me, handily. I think lightning does turn computers into mass-destruction bent machines, it's just a question of viable options. If it can't destroy the world, it might as well beat you in Spades, or self-destruct.

(Similarly, I'm fairly sure my pet cat wants to kill me, but it knows it doesn't have a chance, so it plays it smart)

M.
 
Since the aircraft is capable of stealth, Wonder Woman and her invisible plane are the only ones who can save the day. It takes a stealth to find a stealth. After capturing the rogue stealth plane WW will use her lasso of truth to apprehend the AI computer. Upon being lasso'd the AI computer will look at Wonder Woman and say, "Geez you got big breasts!"

THE END

I predict most of the careers of the actors and filmmakers involved will also become stealth after it bombs.
 
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