STAR WARS - The greatest trilogy ever concieved

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It saddens me to see what George has done to the Star Wars legacy.

One of my fondest memories of childhood is being 10-years-old and seeing Star Wars on the big screen during it's original release in 1977. A film like that had never been seen before and it was a magical experience for me. And to see now what George has done to the original films (Jabba) and the almost sterile way in which the prequels are unfolding is a tragedy. The prequels lack the charm, life, and electricity that made the original trilogy become a part of human storytelling history. I love the original trilogy and always will, but the prequels make me look at the ground with my hands in my pockets and kick a rock while sadly thinking, "Damn."
 
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The first trilogy has been written by a man alone against a system, struggling for years to make his dream come true. We can feel his identification with Luke very much ; it's very touching. He was using the Force, and the Force was with him : he wrote a masterpiece, a model of dramaturgy, an eternal classic.

He brought the child sight into the system and that was probably a good thing to happen in this time full of pessimistic films. Then he made billions, trillions, zillions... and (involunterily) opened the doors of cinema to the child oriented mass marketing machine Hollywood has become today : children (and "ungrown-ups") are a very profitable audience, infinitely more than educated and very critical adults that made the majority of the audience then.

Then what ? He claims he's an outsider struggling against the studios, but has he used his colossal fortune to help young artists raising their voices to criticize the system (like F. F. Coppola, his mentor, did) ? Nope : his Empire is at his nearly exclusive use.

When I went to the theater to see Episode I, I had to endure thirty minutes of ads for star Wars toys and Star Wars MacDonald's menus before the film actually begun. By that time, I was already fed up with Star Wars. And the film was a total crap, deserted from all its original philosophy. I decided to boycott the next episodes.

But you know what it's like : man is weak. I ended up seeing Episode II on TV last year... and it was just as crappy, only very partially compensated by the final cliff hanger. No more broken characters playing with delight a wonderful pop-corn script hiding the most profound dimension of an ancient greek tragedy. No more magical settings and rusty spaceships. No. Just cleanissimo characters struggling to tell their empty lines in front of a green screen — the matrix of virtual cleanissimo CGIed clichés so expensive you never get a shot longer than three seconds and a sequence longer than one minute (except for the final battle when George's vision of directing is the usual rattle we're crammed with all year long by Jerry "big bollocks" Bruckheimer and his likes.)

Pathetic.

We thought George Lucas was Luke Skywalker, the untouchable hero ; he's just Darth Vador, the Jedi who surrendered to the Dark side of the Force. The irony is so true to the film that it's almost an autobiography he's directing. A shitty one.

So I just try to think that the real George Lucas is dead, that his body is possessed by some greedy devil. And I mentally pray for the soul of this great storyteller who died twenty years ago.

To him, I give eternal respect. And I spit on the face of the impostor who's taken his place. He deserves no less.
 
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I understand the Jabba scene is being replaced by a better CGI Jabba.

Of course, it was originally shot with a furry fat guy.
 
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The person you all should check out is Bruce Logan...this guy shot many B cams for stars wars and 2001 ....I am honored to have worked under him for 12 years...as his 1st AD.
 
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aw cmon people... we all know that the best Trilogy is Back To The Future I,II,III!!!! ha ::)
 
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That's a great argument, only problem is that 2 sucked. It was almost as bad as return of the jedi, so they are almost even if it wasn't for light sabers.
 
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Tsk, tsk, tsk... Have you people gone mad?

Don't you remember the cinematographic beauty that is the "Ernest goes to... " trilogy? ;D
 
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HAHAHAHAHAHAH Hey Terry, the guy that played the cook in those (Gailard Sartain) lives up here in Tulsa... In looking at his credits, he's actually done an amazing amount of work!!!

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0765605/
 
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Give me The Godfather trilogy. Godfather I and II were good enough not to be dragged too far down by III. As for the Star Wars trilogy, Return of the Jedi sunk it too deep to for it to win greatest trilogy. Just for fun, here are some reasons why Return of the Jedi sucks. (I wish I could claim them as my own, but they were posted years ago on Wordplay (www.wordplayer.com) by Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio.

The scene where Luke tells Leia they're brother and sister ... meaning Darth Vader is *her* father, too ... the guy who blew up her adopted planet and her adoptive father ... then interrogated her with a pretty nasty looking Ball o' Torture ... how could that scene have been so undramatic?

In STAR WARS, they have to destroy a completed Death Star that is coming in range of blowing up the entire rebel alliance ... in ROTJ, it's a half-completed Death Star hanging over a worthless moon. As a sequel or a remake, it's a pale imitation.

Why would the Ewoks think C-3PO is a god when there's a seven-foot-tall version of themselves standing there, towards whom C-3PO is clearly subordinate?

Who wants to buy the Luke Skywalker action figure that lies on the floor saying 'Help me, daddy'?

Philip
 
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LOL LOL LOL

Yes, ROTJ was a bummer.
 
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One thing I must chime in with is that when I was much younger (like 8 or so) I liked Return of the Jedi the most! When I watch it today (though I'm still young:P!) I don't, but when I was younger I did! And I'm pretty sure that George's target audience was much younger when he made ROTJ anyways...

Even while it lost the edge of the first two, it still was much better than Episode 1! It wasn't really that bad IMO
 
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If someone was to go through and do a "Phantom Edit" on ROTJ, they could probably make a pretty good film out of it. The opening scene was a lot of fun, and the lightsaber battle at the end between Luke and Darth was really pretty good -- I mean, compare that fight to Darth and Obi-Wan in "A New Hope" and you'll see how far they progressed! I just kind of tune out during the whole Endor phase...

... there's something thematic there, the whole premise of Star Wars is gritty organic spirituality triumphing over cold, heartless, surgical steel precision etc, so the Ewoks being a primitive naturalist force that turns the tide of the battle "fits", but it's just so LONG and drawn-out that it really saps the life out of that film.
 
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Never mind the music video inserted into the Special Edition.
 
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Speaking of Special Editions, I heard that they WON'T be releasing the originals on DVD...ONLY the Special Editions!

WTF?????????? I want the Star Wars Trilogy, not a CGI with some old footage thrown in here and there :P
 
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Dude, where have you been?  That's been the word for years.

They've also made further changes to the movies . . . though some of them seem to be not so bad.

And, just to tweak you for your age . . . complaining about changes that were made to movies when you were about 11 don't quite carry the same weight as they do from someone who was about 11 when ROTJ was first released . . . let's just say our history with those flicks is a bit more fundamental . . .   :D :D
 
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. . . let's just say our history with those flicks is a bit more fundamental . . .   :D :D

Fair enough :P  Us youngun don't know what we're talkin 'bout...Can't I complain too?? ;)
 
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;D

Hey, just sayin', if you didn't beg your parents for the very original action figures (like Luke with the stupid yellow stick with a wick on the end that came out of his hand), save Cheerios box tops for the very rare, mail-order-only Boba Fett, have the Light Saber which was a flashlight with an inflatable yellow tube, go through a couple of R2-D2s because the label kept getting ruined, or can't remember the feel of the X-Wing front landing skid curled around your finger as you pulled it out to "land," you might not have as much sentiment invested. I mean, if looking around Robbie's room in "Poltergeist" doesn't make the hair on the back of your neck stand up while you gasp, "I had all that stuff!" . . .

But yes, you can complain, and restore our faith in the Yoots of the world. At least you recognize the problem! ;)

Again, I'm just tweakin' ya. ;)
 
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You mean you didint like the New Jabba? ;D
 
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Damn. I'm just glad that I have the original version of the trilogy on mint condition VHS tapes. Teh Jabba in Ep1 is ghey.
 
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I have 'em, too, in THX Widescreen. Unfortunately, they will fade with time, and I can't make a good backup from them.
 
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