Stallone

Wow, when I mentioned that he comes off as a muscle bound moron who is actually very talented I had no idea that his writing credits were as numerous as they were... That's impressive.

The simple fact is that unless Sly accepts the fact that he is closer to the end of his life than the beginning and that people don't want to see him running around trying to save the world he is in trouble.

There are tons of examples of actors who as they have gotten older have accepted their age and accepted roles that are more suitable for them. Audiences become more engaged with them. One of the best examples I can think of is Jack Nicholson lately with that Diane Keaton movie (can't remember the name) as well as About Schmidt. These are roles that, while still starring, he has accepted that he is a dimished figure, yet he continues to reinvent himself in front of the audience.

I don't want to see Sly running around trying to save the world. That's not realistic and wont get me to buy a ticket. I loved him in Copland. The more he allows audiences to see his flaws the more appealing he becomes.

If you look specifically at the new generation of action heros they are all inherently flawed characters:
Spiderman - Dorky and consumed by guilt from the death of a father figure
Neo - Brainless
Xmen - Deal with prejudice (I dunno)
Catwoman - Forced to appear in that awful movie

Granted, these are poor examples, but even if you look at Arnold his Terminator and Predator characters were not accessable, just too one dimmensional. His True Lies character was multi-facetted and therefore more engaging.

Stallone in Rocky and Rabmo was more than one-dimmensional. Stallone in Judge Dredd, Demolition Man, Get Carter... nothing. Flat.

He needs to prove to audiences that he can engage them, that he is more than just that muscle bound moron.

I would love to see him as a father of a junkie or something like that. I would love to see him as a terrorist (a la Bruce Willis in The Jackyl). I would love to see him in a psycho thriller as a homocidal maniac (a la Kevin Spacey in Se7en).

I don't think there has been a part that has challenged him as an actor in a long time, maybe because he is type casted or maybe because those parts don't appeal to him. Either way, something has got to give with him.

I don't know how I didn't know that he was involved in Staying Alive, just look at the hair... That was his contribution.

(Wow: 999 posts, the next one had better be good)
 
I loved "Rocky", and I liked "Rocky II" and "Copland". Other than that, I've despised almost everything Stallone has done. But then, I find most action movies boring, so I'm not the average moviegoer. So at the risk of bringing on the Wrath of Hudson, I just never got the appeal of Stallone beyond the first two Rocky flicks.

Cheers,

Josh
 
First Blood was a good movie (based on a novel). It's just when the franchise became "RAMBO!" that it got stupid.
 
You know, I might have to take a look at "First Blood" again just to make sure I'm not getting it mixed up in my head with the rest of the "RAMBO!" flicks. Those are all meshed together in my mind after all these years.
 
Sly lost me after the Rocky V fiasco. Cliffhanger, or so I thought at the time, was to be his comeback. No, no it wasn't. Don't get me wrong- it was, and remains, a solid action flick and one of Harlin's best. However, the downward spiral resumed immediately after. Since then, he's yet to regain the well-deserved respect he held as a true 70's and 80's icon.

I must stand up for a few of the early ones that are being passed over:

Rocky IV (Sure...it may have been the Cold War sentiment talking, but it packed a left cross to the heart)

Rhinestone (I have fond memories of this being a fun flick to watch. I thought this was his one comedic performance that actually worked.)

Rambo: First Blood Part II (Come on...this is a guilty pleasure for all of us...isn't it?)


also

Assassins (A wax sculpture of Stallone left over from one of the defunct Planet Hollywoods could have turned in a better performance...but Antonio was really good, especially the swearing scene. You know the one, "poo poo poo poo Mother poo pooer poo poo poo poo!")
 
Filmjunkie677 said:
I actually enjoyed a straight to video he made a few years ago called "eye see you" Kinda like a slasher flick, Stallone plays the cop. Hudson, check it out.

I have that one (listed as D-Tox on IMDB). Was pretty decent. Nighthawks and Victory are a couple more I really like. Also Deathrace 2000 (with David Carradine) but David Jimerson beat me to that one. Yea he's done a few dogs but who has'nt? Even Brando chose a dog or two (I will put The Island of Dr. Moreau on that list). Overall I enjoy watching his movies. I'll admit it. I watch movies for entertainment.:thumbsup:
 
You guys forgot about Death Race 2000. He was great as "Machine Gun" Joe Viterbo [sic].

"Lousy stinkin' dirtball! You got two seconds to live!"

I agree about First Blood. I first saw it on home video... a fairly unkonwn gem at the time.
The first Rocky movie was good, and the 3rd was new when I was in junior high, so I just had to freak over that one.
 
I saw Stallone a few days ago at Mandalay Bay. They are filming the fight scenes in the arena there. he walked right past me and I can tell you he's bulky but not tall at all. I'm 6'0" and I was easily 3 or 4 inches taller than him.
 
Filmjunkie677 said:
Stallone now has a blog up of the Rocky 6 production for anypne that's interested.
http://www.rockybalboablog.com/

Thanks for the link. I was WAY skeptical about another Rocky movie since I dispised the last one, but that video got me stoked. Something about seeing Sly in the ring again made me feel like I was 12 again. ROCKY, ROCKY, ROCKY...
:laugh:
 
Ahhh..Over the Top.

Anyone ever use that arm wrestling move after the movie came out?
ha,ha.
Every lunch table in my elementary school had an arm wrestling competition going on.
 
aha you guys forgot my favorite besides Rocky, Lords of Flatbush, (PARADISE ALLEY) MAN CLASSIC STALLONE HE PLAYS A HUSTLER with his two brothers ones a wrestler the other ARMAND SAVANTE(sp) who becomes the manager. great story set in the depression
 
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