Stabilizing F/X in Vegas?

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Fabian Lijtmaer

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Guys and Gals,

I own Vegas Pro 8 and have a bit of shaky footage. Wondering if Vegas has any kind of Stablizing F/X or filter? If not, where can I find it.

thank you

rock and roll!!!
 
I downloaded and tried it last night. I could see that it had eliminated camera roll etc but maybe it was something to do with the nature of the move in the footage but the result came out with very harsh bouncing zoom kind of effect. In, out, in out and so on during some moments in the video. Has this happened to you ?
 
But does the resulting video result in a loss of resolution ??? It has to, but is the quality loss visible to a sharp eye ?
 
Deshaker is the best ever plug-in, but you have to find out the right settings of the its options. Then no zoom, borders or anything else!!! After few months of experimenting I reached out the combination of settings with which you almost can't see a difference between original and deshaked video (except the stable result, of course)...
 
you guys using deshaker within vegas 8 or only thru v-dub?

I'd like to try stabilizing some HDV footage...possible?
 
Efexone said:
you guys using deshaker within vegas 8 or only thru v-dub?

I'd like to try stabilizing some HDV footage...possible?
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Use Deshaker within VirtualDub, then render the video out using Cineform codec.
Of course Deshaker is possible for HDV footage, just enter the resolution in the proper fields.
 
New_Zealand said:
I downloaded Mercalli. How do I get my film clip into it or do I transfer from Vegas or? Thanks
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Mercalli is a plugin for Vegas. install it and look for it in the effects panel. Apply to the clip and play with the settings.

S Cannon
 
Efexone > I dont think you could import a HDV file into virtual dub. Deshaker is mainly a Virtual Dub Filter. So that limits you to working with avi files only. Youd probably have to render out to an uncompressed avi. Then load that into virtualdub and use the deshaker filter from within there. Then take the rendered uncompressed avi and load it back into Vegas. I have no idea about Mercalli and its workings.

Producer > I dont think you can render to cineform from within virtualdub. I assume you should be able to load a cineform avi into it. But not render out, as cineform will show an error saying you might have to buy their commercial stand-alone codecs/render plugins for that.
 
plainman007 said:
Producer > I dont think you can render to cineform from within virtualdub. I assume you should be able to load a cineform avi into it. But not render out, as cineform will show an error saying you might have to buy their commercial stand-alone codecs/render plugins for that.
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I know what I say, so I REALLY render out to Cineform. of course, I made some chenges in the core of CIneform codec so that it can support not only Vegas.
Of course, first I convert an HDV file to uncompressed or even to MPEG-4 Video Codec V2 (or V3), again after some changes in the core of that codec too... If you don't believe, I can upload some short video before and after VDub - original and deshaked.
 
Producer > You really know what you say, but did you say that you have made changes to the core or whatever of Cineform. Read your statement below.


producer said:
Use Deshaker within VirtualDub, then render the video out using Cineform codec.
Of course Deshaker is possible for HDV footage, just enter the resolution in the proper fields.
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Youve just asked him to render to cineform from within Virtualdub. WHICH IS NOT POSSIBLE.

Secondly, i dont think its legal or even allowed by cineform developers to modify their codec to render thru Virtual Dub as its meant to only encode with Vegas.

Thirdly when we guide members here we tell them actually how it can be done by normal, standardised and legal means. If not we at the least mention that theres a catch and that a deviation must be taken which you did not do. How will efexone know how to tamper with the codec. He'd end up breaking his head trying to render out to cineform from within Virtual Dub and not know why it wasnt working.
 
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plainman007 said:
Producer >
He'd end up breaking his head trying to render out to cineform from within Virtual Dub and not know why it wasnt working.
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actually, I already tried rendering out to cineform before it was mentioned :). what codec do you recommend that virtual dub likes when workin with sony HDV?
 
Efexone > Ah you tried it. But did it work or not (im guessing NOT) ?

Regarding your 2nd question. Virtual Dub doesnt 'like' any codec for that matter. It just offers you most codecs available on the system. Its just as good as vegas or any other renderer 'in my experience', but please remember that it only accepts avi's as input. Not HDV. Theres a way to trick virtualdub into thinking an mpeg2 stream is an avi using the avisynth plugin etc. Ive done it with SD Mpegs but dont know if avisynth works with HD Mpegs. And HDV is an Mpeg2 stream after all. Anyway without confusing you, the easiest would be to load your HDV files onto the vegas timeline. Then render out portions which only need stabilization. That way you will be working with modest sized uncompressed files. Then render out with stabilization back into uncompressed. Then reload this uncompressed clip back onto the vegas timeline (you can ofcourse delete your shaky uncompressed clip to conserve space) and finish your project.
 
plainman007 said:
Producer >
Youve just asked him to render to cineform from within Virtualdub. WHICH IS NOT POSSIBLE.
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Ok, upload some 5-10 seconds of not stabilized (shaking) video, then I will process it and will upload it back for you, so you can see that it is AVI Cineform codec. NEVER say "not possible" before you are really sure!!!
 
plainman007 said:
Virtual Dub doesnt 'like' any codec for that matter. It just offers you most codecs available on the system. Its just as good as vegas or any other renderer 'in my experience', but please remember that it only accepts avi's as input. Not HDV. Theres a way to trick virtualdub into thinking an mpeg2 stream is an avi using the avisynth plugin etc. Ive done it with SD Mpegs but dont know if avisynth works with HD Mpegs. And HDV is an Mpeg2 stream after all. Anyway without confusing you, the easiest would be to load your HDV files onto the vegas timeline. Then render out portions which only need stabilization. That way you will be working with modest sized uncompressed files. Then render out with stabilization back into uncompressed. Then reload this uncompressed clip back onto the vegas timeline (you can ofcourse delete your shaky uncompressed clip to conserve space) and finish your project.
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Oh no no no, a lot of complications!!! Ok, like it or not, that is the only right way: use 4Media HD Video Converter for HDV -> HD AVI (mpeg-4 v2) and dont say that you get quality losses because it is depend on the settngs you do (of course, I made them much better in the core) Then put this HD AVI file in VDub, then the sky is the limit! VDub CAN accept NOT ONLY AVI files!!! Also mpg, mov, wmv, etc... Then after Deshakering render to Cineform AVI. Now Sony Vegas is waiting for your further process.
 
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