Soundtrack Pro 2 Issues

fleaguit

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Hey guys,

I don't know how many people here are using Soundtrack Pro 2 in conjunction with Final Cut, but I thought I'd start this thread to see if I'm alone in the issues I'm having.

A little background:

I've been using Soundtrack Pro since version 1 to do simple audio mixing on projects I've worked on. My background in mixing mainly comes from a Logic / Pro Tools environment, but I've really liked the steps that Apple has taken with soundtrack to make a product specifically for mixing for video. Anyway, I'd used Soundtrack a bunch of times to mix simple projects, usually 10- 15 minutes long, that were shot in standard def DV. The program worked ok, although perhaps a little slower than I'd hoped.

So along comes Soundtrack Pro 2 when I upgrade to the new Final Cut Studio in June. I used the program once to mix a 12 minute piece shot in DV when I first got the program. Performed a bit better than Soundtrack Pro v1, and so I was excited. I also spent some time fooling around with the surround panner and such, and I was getting some very good results quickly.

So, here I am a few months later, attempting to do a temp mix on the first reel of my feature film. I wasn't looking to do too much, just a little noise reduction on a couple clips, and an overal eq, and compressor on the tracks. The feature was shot in HD, and the audio tracks contained 8 tracks of dialogue (2 stereo and 4 mono), 12 tracks of sound FX (4 Stereo and 4 mono) and 4 tracks for music ( both stereo) . The reel was roughly 14 minutes long. As I pulled the project into Soundtrack, it loaded very quickly, everything seemed good. This would not last.

Within a few minutes of working, the program froze up on me. I lost work several times, started saving every 2 minutes. Then after a few hours of painfully slow work (Soundtrack could not playback audio for more than 15 seconds without giving a disklimit error) I finally had my temp mix done. I go to export the mix to an AIFF file, and lo and behold it decides that an unknown error will prevent it from bouncing the mix to disk.

My real question to all of you, am I the only one finding this program completely inadequate? I'm running it on a Dual 2 ghZ G5, 2 Gigs of Ram, audio output through a Presonus Firepod. Final cut handles playback of the entire film absolutely fine, even with running Digital Cinema Preview. You would think Soundtrack would have alot less strain on it because the video requirements are so much less.

I really hope I'm not going to have to upgrade to a new machine to mix this film. If anyone has any suggestions, I'm willing to try anything to get this program running up to speed.
 
My one suggestion is to consider the drives the media is sitting on. I find that FCP sometimes becomes flaky when taxing USB drives or cheap firewire drives. Often transferring the media to better external drives (or internal SATA drives) will solve problems that seem similar to yours. Try that, and see if it works... of course, if everything is on SATA drives now... well, then I have nothing to say at the moment!
 
Right now the media is on an internal Sata for the bulk of the dialogue. Music and effects are located on two seperate Firewire 400 drives, both a bit on the cheap side. I'll try moving some files around and see if I can get better results.
 
Hi,

I used Soundtrack 2 and FCP in a similar setup for a feature. I did not have problems with Soundtrack. I easily went back and forth between programs. I had my audio running through an Presonus Firebox and the video to a ACD. I edited on an Dual 2.0 G5 and a MacPro. Same setup. No issues or crashes with either program.

Here are my suggestions:
1. Compile all the audio onto one drive (Either SATA or a quality Firewire 800 Drive).
Keeping your video files on the other media drive should not be a problem.
2. Increase the RAM on your MAC. I had 6GBs.
3. Backup your FCP and Soundtrack Files to a backup drive.
4. Run a clean install of Studio 2 and run updates.
5. Open your FCP project and test playback.
6. Now, export files to STP and test playback.

You should not have to upgrade machines. I ran this on a the first Dual G5 and did not have a problem.

Hope this helps.

Ken
 
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