Sound Editing Suggestions

tedwardo24

tedwardo24

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I have the Final Cut HD package (FCP, Motion, Soundtrack, compressor, etc) and I am looking for a good program to edit sound with.

I am looking for an application that does an excellent job cleaning up, cutting, enhancing, filtering, and all around editing of sound. A pc example of exactly what I am looking for is Cool Edit Pro (now Adobe Audition).

I am on a Mac, and I also have a very limited budget so I'm looking for cheap, open source, freeware, etc. Any ideas?

......... all I want to do is edit sound and I don't want to do it in FCP ...please help!
 
er? how about soundtrack pro, have you looked at the tutorials, etc. ?
it's pretty good

since you're on a budget and already have a sound editing app that's integrated with your video editing app

If you have Studio 2 you'd be crazy not to use soundtrack as you can even change your edit in FCP AFTER you've done the sound edit in Soundtrack and it will Automatically keep them in sync.
 
Jack Daniel Stanley said:
If you have Studio 2 you'd be crazy not to use soundtrack as you can even change your edit in FCP AFTER you've done the sound edit in Soundtrack and it will Automatically keep them in sync.
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??? There is a conform feature but it's not "automatic". Nobody makes such a beast.
However I would have to second the suggestion. Even if your on the earlier version of STP. Your going to have to spend some $ to get anything much better. Figure $300-$500 for the barest bones system that would work better that STP. And that would be the educational version of Pro Tools and an M-Audio box.
 
BTW, YOU are the one doing the cleanup not the app. The app is just a tool and they all to one extent or another do the same things. Since you have to do the work with the tool you need to decide what tool you want to work with. That said you don't have too many options and one you already own.

tedwardo24 said:
I have the Final Cut HD package (FCP, Motion, Soundtrack, compressor, etc) and I am looking for a good program to edit sound with.

I am looking for an application that does an excellent job cleaning up, cutting, enhancing, filtering, and all around editing of sound. A pc example of exactly what I am looking for is Cool Edit Pro (now Adobe Audition).

I am on a Mac, and I also have a very limited budget so I'm looking for cheap, open source, freeware, etc. Any ideas?

......... all I want to do is edit sound and I don't want to do it in FCP ...please help!
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Jack Daniel Stanley said:
er? how about soundtrack pro, have you looked at the tutorials, etc. ?
it's pretty good

since you're on a budget and already have a sound editing app that's integrated with your video editing app

If you have Studio 2 you'd be crazy not to use soundtrack as you can even change your edit in FCP AFTER you've done the sound edit in Soundtrack and it will Automatically keep them in sync.
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ohhhhhhhhh i wish i knew soundtrack pro to do what i want. but, in my research i read a quote that specifically said: "soundtrack is NOT an audio editor" so that is why i was looking around for something else... that and I have found Cool Edit to be a lot more user intuitive than Soundtrack.

I have read tutorials (have any good suggestions for other tutorials?) but find it awkward to do what I need it to do. For example, I was trying to do a time stretch (make my audio clip 50% faster) and thought I did it but it still played the same speed... meaning I obviously didn't get what the hell I was doing. I was wondering if I needed to render the clip to get it to work? I saw my audio wave stretch smaller over the current clip, but when I released the mouse nothing happened? That's just one example of me struggling.

any help would be greatly appreciated. I would LOVE to learn sound track pro and I will see what I can get out of it. Now that you think it is an acceptable audio editor I will try it out for that.
 
STP is most certainly a "audio editor", what did they think it was?? Part of the confusion might be over the evolution of the product. It was originally a two track editor (but then it was called "Soundtrack"). STP I think has always been multi track. It works much more like a picture editing app than I would like but it should be comfortable to FCP users. All these things have learning curves. I am very fast in PT, after awhile I was pretty fast in STP. Now that I haven't used it in awhile I would need to spent some time with it to get proficient again. But it is certainly capable of doing what you want to do. And I'm sure it is more post oriented than "cool edit". But Cool edit is a PC application so I'm guessing that your a PC guy who got a Mac to use FCP and some of the issues with STP may be OS related. When I switched (PT didn't run on PC's at the time) it took awhile to get comfortable with the differences. Of course I could be WAY off in my assumptions.
There are not the number of audio editing apps on the Mac that there are on the PC (or were?). PT, Deck, Nuendo, and STP are I think it for multi tracks with post features. Of those Deck is under $500 I think, and you need to get some hardware, Nuendo is $1,500 - $2,000 and you need to buy hardware. STP is free (if you bought FCP) and you need hardware and PT ranges from around $150 (plus hardware - educational) to $$$$$. A full on PT system can get you up to the $50,000 range, but most HD systems are under $20,000 and most Le systems are under $1,500 (including hardware). Then there are a bunch of multi tracks that are very music oriented like what ships with Mackie boxes and what ships with MOTU boxes. Neither I think are particularly post centric. There are also a lot of two track editors but that is not of much use to what you want to do.
 
Noiz2 said:
??? There is a conform feature but it's not "automatic". Nobody makes such a beast...
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hahah, er. yeah. I mean you have to apply/use it. But what you don't have to do is watch the clip, judge if it's off sync. adjust a few frames. watch again. split the difference. watch again.

as such, the process is "automated".

you also have to put the coffee grounds in the coffee pot, put the water in a pitcher, and then hit a button to work your automatic coffee maker, lol :grin:
 
i use to use protools MBOX it was a cool little interface but i was mostly interested in the software... i did a couple of 5.1 mixes with the mbox... iv'e recently upgraded to the protools 002. the software for both are pretty much the same as sound forge it's just protools plugs are much more expensive.
 
Jack Daniel Stanley said:
hahah, er. yeah. I mean you have to apply/use it. But what you don't have to do is watch the clip, judge if it's off sync. adjust a few frames. watch again. split the difference. watch again.

as such, the process is "automated".

you also have to put the coffee grounds in the coffee pot, put the water in a pitcher, and then hit a button to work your automatic coffee maker, lol :grin:
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This shows a deep lack of understanding of both the process and the software.
Your statement is a little like saying if you have a hammer and nails and wood then building the house is "automatic". To have STP will conform a project IF you have followed the work flow exactly. Many other conforming softwares allow a lot more flexibility in the work flow. NOBODY makes something that "automatically" conforms your project or session. If you have ever conformed by moving clips "a few frames and looking" then you don't know how to conform. Sorry if that seems harsh but telling someone who doesn't know that there projects will get magically brought into sync is just really bad misinformation.
 
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